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Postby DateDemon » Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:00 pm

also why do you keep going out solo? You could probably find a wing here on the forum to go out with you. Solo is fucking tough and thats just the truth. Not that much tougher physically of approaching girls and stuff but so much tougher mentally. If you just insist on going out soloing just remember this is a process and it takes time to get good. There is no reason to be depressed at the end of the night if you open a set or two and it goes badly just view it as a learning experience and be proud of yourself for doing it. Also even though you may be viewing yourself as failing the more you do it the more you will subconsciously learn as well about just talking to women. So you might not even realize how far you have come. You need to follow player's advice and just be confident and think that you are the shit.
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Postby sterling » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:20 pm

a biggie for me that i include in every every every set is "so, how do yall know each other?" In the process of getting the answers to that question you can get alot of material to talk about from them about them. Plus it will tell you who is bf,gf married, gay or whatever.
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Postby isosceles cheese » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:52 pm

sterling wrote:a biggie for me that i include in every every every set is "so, how do yall know each other?" In the process of getting the answers to that question you can get alot of material to talk about from them about them. Plus it will tell you who is bf,gf married, gay or whatever.


I always wanted to use that, but ask them a question and see if who looks at each other for compliance, then run the "you've been friends forever" bullshit on them. I've watched this, and all chicks look at each other when you ask simple questions because they're fucking retarded. lol
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Postby Bitches » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:43 pm

I keep going solo because i don't have any "friends." There are a couple of people from work that are acquaintances but 90% of the time they don't want to go out. So its either go solo or stay in my apartment and read on theory of PUA.

I agree that I have to just think i am a "bad ass muthafucker!" I know my confidence is absolute 0 right now. But it's like...ok i used to play alot of poker (I'm sure everyone has by now), after a good or bad session I would go back in my head and think of everything i did wrong or right. So even though if i lost or won i would make the proper adjustments for the next time i would sit down at the table. Right now I know I have no idea what adjustments to make? For all i know i am doing everything wrong. So when i do get shut down i have no information to go on except that some girl though i was not attractive.

But hey, I'm here. I'm getting great info from everyone. I try to pick everyones brain when i can. I want to be in this for the long run.


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Postby Twitchy » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:52 pm

My suggestions......get some hobbies where you can interact with people. Go to church. Take some classes on something that interests you. Become a regular at a bar/coffee shop and get to know the staff. Attend a speed dating event or two. Join meetup.com and sign up for a bunch of events in your local area. Do charity work. Volunteer at an animal shelter. Get involved in poker tournaments hosted by a bar or restaurant and be social when you are playing.

Meet people. Make friends (with both men and women). The more you interact with others, the more you will be able to calibrate your interactions and grow.

Also, I suggest everyone on this form read "How to win friends and influence people". I have it in my annual rotation. Great book!
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Postby Murad » Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:31 pm

Hey man dont be so hard on yourself. Man what we do is something that most people wont. I used to go out by myself. I went to dallas once and I was sarging for 4 HOURS all by myself(and I live in another city). Yes the pressure can get to you. But you know what? This shit take time man. It might take some time before even begin to see the rusults man. Tell you what, if it ever comed down to that none of your friends want to sarge with you,heck I am in Dallas every weekend I will wing with you. AND above all....HAVE FUN!!!
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Postby TopDog » Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:51 pm

Bitches wrote:I keep going solo because i don't have any "friends." There are a couple of people from work that are acquaintances but 90% of the time they don't want to go out. So its either go solo or stay in my apartment and read on theory of PUA.

I agree that I have to just think i am a "bad ass muthafucker!" I know my confidence is absolute 0 right now. But it's like...ok i used to play alot of poker (I'm sure everyone has by now), after a good or bad session I would go back in my head and think of everything i did wrong or right. So even though if i lost or won i would make the proper adjustments for the next time i would sit down at the table. Right now I know I have no idea what adjustments to make? For all i know i am doing everything wrong. So when i do get shut down i have no information to go on except that some girl though i was not attractive.

But hey, I'm here. I'm getting great info from everyone. I try to pick everyones brain when i can. I want to be in this for the long run.


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i get the impression that there are groups of guys from here going out every damn friday and saturday night. You should meet up with some of these groups that are going out. Also, look to expand social circle through non-pua means as twitchy suggested.

I give you massive props for going solo even, since it sounds like you are starting out. you realize 90% of dudes would not even think about doing that.. and probably 5% of the rest are from the community. :)

I think solo sarging is great and do it quite a bit, but i think there is a base level to be at before trying to do that, or it really hinders your progress if you don't have the fundementals/inner game down and from the tone of some of your posts, you may not be there yet.

also i'd recommend staying away from the 'interview questions' initially...i know i hate when AFC girls ask me what i do, where do i work. it's boring, and not what i'm looking to talk about at 11PM on a saturday night..
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Postby Weaver » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:37 pm

yo man, it's rough starting out in any new hobby, career, or anything worth while. Sounds like you're getting out there which is a step in the right direction- I'm no mPUA but a couple things i'd recommend starting out

1. EYE CONTACT IS POSSIBLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO TO DISPLAY CONFIDENCE! I personally use to struggle with eye contact, until I realized how big of an impact it can have on ANY social interaction. Practice Eye contact- with women you want to hold eye contact until they look away- if it goes on for more than like 20 seconds, maybe wink or make a funny face- once they look away then you can- (this has had the best results for me) practice it! With guys, not so much unless you are actually in a conversation.

2. look at rejection as a learning experience- fail and fail again- fall down, get up, analyze what you did, how they reacted and what you can alter- eventually, you'll get good- be social, don't just hit on women- make friends with women- don't have expectations or you will telegraph that shit like the plague and they will run off- if something isn't going well- eject- before they can and move on- talk to everybody, men and women alike, practice at work, in the grocery store, with bartenders/waitresses, old people, hell even animals- it's all practice, it all helps- and if you can walk in to a room, and start talking to people immediately- especially if you're solo- it builds social proof to the rest of the room- people notice the people who are talking to others, having a good time, it makes them think automatically that you are someone they may be interested in talking to- and then when you make way to that set you want to talk to , they know that you are social and fun before you open your mouth

Don't be the guy sitting against the bar holding a beer to his chest trying to look cool


If you're gonna get in to questions like what do you do, where you from, how many brothers and sisters you have, don't say it in that fashion... Try making statements like...

You must not be from around here-
I bet you're the youngest in your family-
You strike me as a shelf stocker-

See my point? It's not the same old shit every chump on the street comes up and asks, it's you making an assumption- that they want to respond to and say, nut uh- i'm so cool here is what i do- or no way i'm the big sister- blah blah blah and with that, she is volunteering the information instead of feeling like you are just making idle bullshit boring chit chat.

These are a couple things that became really helpful to me- i'm still learning like mad but hey- try it out, play with it- and have fun dude
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Postby El Fenix » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:53 pm

call me up. I'm always willing to have fun, and help people. PM me for my contact info.
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