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[Alphagame]

Did one of my former girlfriends write that?

This describes me very well. All my girlfriends call me "player".

FWIW, I think they created me. I can't tell you how many women dumped me before I learned "game" because I indicated early on that I was interested in an exclusive relationship. They're more fucked up than we are.

I mean, once you develop this skill set, why in the hell would you commit to just one girl???

[Lion]

I get asked if I'm a player all the time. It's hard to bite my tongue and say "No, I'm a pick-up artist. There's a difference!". Typically player's lie to women to bed them. I'm always upfront about not wanting a monogamous relationship. I never use that "you're the most perfect woman" bullshit. Player's are so afc in my mind.

[Kit]

There's nothing wrong with being a player. Girls actually prefer it because that means that you're the one leading and doing the work, she gets to sit back and enjoy the ride. I get the player accusation all the damn time.

It's usually the last thing they say before she gives me a BJ

They also love the idea of potentially being the one that tames the ladies man. As if...

I agree 100%. I would have argued with you even up to a year ago, but I have finally learned the truth! Even if women know we are playing a game, it won't matter. In fact, I bet we can tell them we are gaming them and unless they are very insecure, they will keep playing along because they like the game. I think the more insecure a girl is or the more time or more recently she has been hurt in a long term relationship the harder she may be to play.

I dated a very confident woman for four years. She was freaking HOT! She cheated on my stupid ass a few times too. Why? I know now. It was exciting to her. She wanted the security of me but was not willing to give up the excitement of the game that I did not offer her.

To be blunt, now I want to be the guy fucking my hot ex gf on the side and not the dumb shit taking care of her and her kids.

[Kit]

Did one of my former girlfriends write that?

This describes me very well. All my girlfriends call me "player".

FWIW, I think they created me. I can't tell you how many women dumped me before I learned "game" because I indicated early on that I was interested in an exclusive relationship. They're more fucked up than we are.

I mean, once you develop this skill set, why in the hell would you commit to just one girl???

Dude, if that describes you, I recommend improving your game. Don't take my comment personally because it has described me too! You and I both need to revamp and attack. Your approach works well if you're trying to get married and take care of a woman.

I suggest you and I both work toward getting what we want without having to give so much of ourselves.

[Kit]

I think you and I are in agreement that other than being bold, this doesn't apply to PUAs. PUAs get what they want without allowing a woman to get emotionally attached enough to get hurt. If you romance a woman and pull her into your world thinking you are offering her security and then you go out and cheat on her, hmmm... not really cool and I guess that kind of is player although sometimes I don't think the playing was not intentional. I think women get emotionally attached before we are ready for them too sometimes and we don't know how to stop them without hurting them.

Would you agree that if our game is good enough, we can tell the woman we are gaming them and the woman is still going to want it?