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Postby Alphagame » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:39 am

I agree that having a goal is probably a good idea.

Initially, I thought I'd get good at pick-up and go to the bars and get laid on 80% of my outings...that is, once I figured out what I was doing with pick-up.

The problem is, even the best PUA's will only get laid on one of out five trips to the bars. If your game is off, but still good, I'd say going to the bars 10 times per month would mean 1 lay per month or 12 lays per year. For me, I'm a needy bastard and I NEED more than an occasional one night stand.

Or you could take on a steady girlfriend. The problem with that is, they all have annoying little characteristics about them. All people do. That's what makes us human. The problem is, at least for me, these annoying little characteristics slowly evolve into VERY annoying problems and then before you know it, the entire person annoys you. Then you slowly forget that she's not a man and her emotional outbursts (crying, whining, whatever)...they all do it...REALLY drive you nuts. Next thing you realize, you've lost sexual attraction for her and you don't even want to fuck her. This is why so many married couples only fuck each other like 3 or 4 times per year. It's called the "checked out marriage". Then she finds someone else to fuck her and the whole thing ends in divorce.

Or, you can do what I'm doing, and that is two girlfriends at once. Currently, I have three but I've recently found an upgrade and I gotta let one go. I just don't have time for 3 girlfriends.

The nice thing about having 2 girlfriends is, the jealousy feeds on itself with them and they put YOU on a pedestal. They know you aren't with them so they assume your with one of your other girlfriends. They get jealous. They want you all to themselves. They make you their one-itis.

The whole trick to this is, you have to control your own jealousy. Somehow, you've got to brainwash yourself into believing that even if they do go fuck another guy, that guy is gonna fail in comparison to you. For me it's pretty easy. I have a mental check list of things I know to be true about myself and I KNOW most guys can't compare to me. Once you internalize this belief, you're ready for open relationships. But I think internalizing this believe if critical for success.

If you really believed, deep down inside, that the other guy couldn't measure up to you on any level, or maybe on one or two issues, but on all other things, she would choose you over him EVERY time...once you internalize that, you have nothing to worry about. When you sent this guy to the hospital, it screamed jealousy and hurt feelings. That normal. It's not a bad thing, in fact, it means you're a lot more normal than me. But as for me, I haven't felt jealousy in a long, long time and I'm glad to be over one-itis and jealousy.

You can't expect women to be loyal and faithful. If the right guy comes along and says the right things and does the right things and the conditions are just right, even the nuns will fuck. They all cheat. Accept it. Deal with it. Believe it. Internalize it. THEY ALL CHEAT. My solution has been open relationships, that way, there is no cheating. Just be honest with them, but it's critical that you get your jealousy under control. That control can only take place with inner belief & inner confidence. Once you get there, you won't be wanting to send the guy to the hospital, you'll be asking your girl how he was in bed.
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Postby The Lisenby Effect » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:59 am

Smirks wrote:I was thinking about this while driving to work just now, and I think if you start looking at your interactions with these women you speak of slightly different you'll get some surprising results. What I mean is don't look at a girl you currently think of as just a "fuck and forget" type as just that, and don't look at these girls you put on a pedestal as "perfect." Find a place some where in between and treat 90% of them that way and you might get more out of a relationship w/ a fuck buddy, and better luck with the ones you think you could do some serious stuff with. Wish ya luck


yea when i reread this post, that's kind of what i do. i see a girl that's just down right sexy as all hell, has the party girl tude, look, talk and walk, and i just see her as a target that just plain old black and white is going to be mine. Then i see girls that are sweet, cute, polite, all that lovey dovey shit and put them past me, from what i've been told... i act way too sweet, too caring, and too nice that it either worries them or scares them off... so it's almost like i have to be a dick to the girls i want to be with... tough... but yes, ill run that through my head and put it as a note in my cell and read it when i get a girls number or something as a reminder... (which is helpful, leave notes in your cell when you do something, to help with your game, and it will kind of humble you or put you in check with that problem you have... works for me at least)



playercool wrote:Interesting post. Even a more interesting reply. Very nice Finesse and Smirks.

Here is my take.

Your young. Do you have any idea what you want your end goal to be? Without this you will float around doing god knows what never finding happiness. Figure out what you want. If you want to find a wife fine. If you just want a billion FB's fine. If you just want a girlfriend fine. Just figure it out and put it down on paper.

Your girl cheated and you got mad at the guy. Unless this guy was your friend tell yourself you were wrong. I will tell you right now about 99% of guys out there would have done the same thing this guy did. I am not going to say he acted correctly he just did what most would do. ie: It was her fault not his. If this doesn't rest on your conscience you might want to figure out why not.

It sounds like this all happened a while back. Clearly you are still not over your ex. I feel for you on this one. That has to be tuff to cope with. I got over my ex by doing what you are doing now. It helped me immensely. Is this girl in your life still? If she is it will be very hard to break away cleanly and get past her. If she is in your life at all figure out how to stop this. Even if you go look at her myspace page quit...QUIT. It will help.

Why are girls falling in love with you? Are you spitting retarted ass lies? You might want to start rethinking what you are telling them. Why make any FB fall in love? That is pointless. It will not help you at all ecspecially if they are lies. I am speculating here so correct me if I am wrong. I just had a friend who used to do this and all his relationships were built on a house of cards. How do you think they all ended?


I'm now 20 and still have problems talking to girls the way i want to, and it seems im constantly remembering my 2yr and i guess subconsciously fuck my self up by saying i cant do that how can i do this.


This comes from experience. And even with experience it doesn't mean you will land the girl you really want. But it will certainly help in your pursuits. This is a very hard game. Sure laying them isn't the hardest part. It is keeping the girl you really want. That is why I made some presumptions up above. Even if they were wrong remember it. You tell some lies to build attraction and they will eventually filter out.

Goodluck


Well... i know what i want, but like a rough draft of it...
I know it's a long shot... but i want to be a punter in the NFL
I am a punter at the school i go to, and pretty damn good at it.
Not just a punter who punts, but one that can hit and take a hit like a mother fucker, not scared of plowing through 180lbs punt returners...
I do want a wife, i just don't know when, I think i want kids, i just dont know when. I do want to enjoy my youth and age and body while it's still young before age, metabolism, and all that older people shit catches up with me... aka i want to enjoy the short passionate relationships or even the occasional hit and quit its... although they are hit and quit its, i never treat them with disrespect, never cuss em out, hit em, bad mouth, etc etc...

yea he was trying to be my friend, she knew him at work, even tried gettin us to hang out a few times, i didnt like him, he tried to AMOG me (he didnt know of the book, trust me, i asked questions and did mind games to find out) in front of her and i didnt stand for that so i AMOG'd back and played cocky funny with his gf, even my gf, and he realized my game and shut down... so he knew what was up with me n her... i think she was just an unstable girl (could never say no to my face, never stood up for herself, mommy and daddy ran her world, all that shit). and yea he got his ass beat physically, but i destroyed her mentally and emotionally... ( had sex drunk with her best friend, hooked up with her cousin, most all of our mutual friends ditched her... it was bad) and yea, although i am bitter i would like to deny it, but yes, most all men would do that, and i see that and accept it.

yea she still likes to be in my life... idk why, still wants to talk over myspace although i moved an hour away for school, and all it does it just puts me in this depressed state for a few hours every time she messages me... so i try ending convos in a polite away, but she keeps going, and it keeps me going... i know i could never touch her, kiss her, be with her again, but idk... i guess ill take your advice and just quit talking to her period. delete her number, myspace, facebook, etc.

yea well i dont lie like black and white, kind of shades of grey... like i dont tell the truth, but i lead them on to things... so if i get called on it, i can say i never said _____ i said ____ then neg them for assuming things, works well actually. but yes, to shoot you straight, most all lies, with some truth splashed in there, but mainly all lies. No your right, hit it on the head, i guess i make them fall in love with me to make the sex, or short time we are together, amazing for them. (I actually care very much for all women, FB, lover, or even a fat bitch i meet off the street or w/e and just make simple talk, friends gf's, all sorts and types, idk why).

yea thanks for the help, much appreciated.




I'm actually about to hang out with this girl from frisco this friday/saturday at her lake house on the lake. Just met her, been running alot of game, she's throwin some back, but then i get her on it and she falls deeper into my grasp, then now is telling me i could stay the night there and is sending me pics on her cell all the time. But i have this other girl from Frisco I'm kind of talking to but not permanent or concrete, I just don't want to fuck up anything with girl#1 this weekend, any suggestions i should do about girl#2 to get her out of my head for the time being?

Thanks alot for the feedback guys!

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