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Flaking

Postby Bull Run » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:00 pm

Lately I've been giving a lot of thought to the concept that women do certain things to men to pique a man's interest and to make herself appear more valuable/attractive/demanded whatever. I'm certain we can all agree with that idea. Further, I'm certain that we can all agree that the laundry list of things girls do to pique a man's interest is huge.

One of the more interesting things that I feel women do to men to pique a man's interest is flaking. We've all been there before. We make plans with a girl and she cancels on you or trys to reschedule. Well, lately I've decided to test the concept of flaking to see if it builds interest in me...i.e. I flake on her instead of vice versa. Here's how I've been doing it:

1. Make plans for 3 - 4 days in the future, use the excuse that you're really busy over the next 2 - 3 days and this is the only time you can fit her in.
2. Be sure and schedule a time to hook up with her during a time in which you've already committed to plans, this prevents you from having the urge to actually follow through with the plans you made with the HB.
3. Call 24 - 36 hours before you're scheduled to get together and tell her that you completely forgot that you're busy at that time. Tell her what you're alternate plans are, and speak about them in a very enthusiastic manner (this implies that you're really excited to be doing this particular activity and not that upset that you won't be with her).

DON'T APOLOGIZE!

Then, tell her that you want to reschedule for a day in the future. (I usually say that I'm busy everyday for about a week and that it'll be at least that long before we see each other again. She will almost always tell you that she can't wait that long, to which you'll respond I'm free right now. BAM! She's on her way to your place or to a locale...don't go to her place, meet at the locale first then bounce to her place. If you offer going to her place it seems like you're TRYING to get over to her place.)

The way I figure it, by canceling on her, flaking on her, you implicitly tell her a lot of things: 1) You're busy and social, and social people have high value 2) you've got a life outside of her 3) you're in demand by others, again high value 4) you have higher priorities than her 5) she's got to COMPETE for your time 6) you're not afraid to disappoint her. I've found this is a very, very powerful reframing device and girls generally eat out of your hands once you cancel on them.

For example, I had plans with an HB this weekend (never intended to keep them) and I cancelled them on Wednesday night, told her that I won't be available for a week (with the reasons why), and told her that I'm free right now (but only after she asked). Within 30 minutes of cancelling our plans, she was at my place...within an hour she was naked in my bed.

I've tried this with day2's as well and have had similar success, although they usually don't come over. More than likely you'll get an insta-date of some type which, of course, gives you the platform to potentially get her back home...

Good luck!!!!
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Postby Smirks » Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:59 am

Nice,BR.

This totally applies to some thing I'm working on right now...I'll give it a shot.
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Postby Howiestern » Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:26 am

Thanks man, I'm pretty confident this works cuz I've had them play it on me! :D
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Postby PicturePerfect » Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:23 am

Been there done this... Absolutely works!! keep in mind though if she is a 7 or lower... (why you would be with this kinda girl is beyond me but hey sometimes we all need it lol) If your not sure of her confidence you really still can blow her out of the water. I've done this with two girls and in all honesty... Es no bueno with lower self esteemed chica's. With the high status women its works wonders.


Good post dude.

Two thumbs up!

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Excuser

Postby Tribulus1000 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:04 pm

Its an excuser move. You're trying to next chicks based on some fake confidence.

Instead of acting busy, acting social and acting like you've got your whole calendar all booked up, why not just be busy/social/booked?

For instance, maybe you really do have plans. Or you're seeing someone else so you tell her "I forgot I made plans to see my friend." And then really truely see her/him.

This is the tool of an insecure person. Sure, it may work but she'll figure it out later.
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Re: Excuser

Postby Smirks » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:23 am

Tribulus1000 wrote:Its an excuser move. You're trying to next chicks based on some fake confidence.

Instead of acting busy, acting social and acting like you've got your whole calendar all booked up, why not just be busy/social/booked?

For instance, maybe you really do have plans. Or you're seeing someone else so you tell her "I forgot I made plans to see my friend." And then really truely see her/him.

This is the tool of an insecure person. Sure, it may work but she'll figure it out later.


Same principle applies whether you're actually busy or not.
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Postby PicturePerfect » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:11 am

Yes, because she is a sneaky stalker type who hax0rized your lil blackbook. There watching you... Just like the penguins and Westfall

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Re: Excuser

Postby Bull Run » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:04 pm

Tribulus1000 wrote:Its an excuser move. You're trying to next chicks based on some fake confidence.

Instead of acting busy, acting social and acting like you've got your whole calendar all booked up, why not just be busy/social/booked?

For instance, maybe you really do have plans. Or you're seeing someone else so you tell her "I forgot I made plans to see my friend." And then really truely see her/him.

This is the tool of an insecure person. Sure, it may work but she'll figure it out later.


I WAS BUSY! I'm always busy. I've got more shit going on than you can imagine.

Still though I double and sometimes triple book my free time to ensure that I can pick the thing or person I want to do the most.

Where in my initial post did I ever talk about not being busy? Re-read the post buddy:

Bull Run wrote:2. Be sure and schedule a time to hook up with her during a time in which you've already committed to plans, this prevents you from having the urge to actually follow through with the plans you made with the HB.


I love when someone on the board decides to comment when they don't understand or know the full story.

Fact is there are a lot of guys in the Community that don't have plans and aren't social...I'm not one of those guys, not even close. Anyone that KNOWS me on a social level in the Community can testify to the fact that my availability is limited.
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Re: Excuser

Postby Smirks » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:12 pm

Bull Run wrote:Fact is there are a lot of guys in the Community that don't have plans and aren't social...I'm not one of those guys, not even close. Anyone that KNOWS me on a social level in the Community can testify to the fact that my availability is limited.


Testifying. It's like trying to coordinate your schedule with the Pope.
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Re: Excuser

Postby Westfall » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:35 am

Tribulus1000 wrote:Its an excuser move. You're trying to next chicks based on some fake confidence.

This is the tool of an insecure person. Sure, it may work but she'll figure it out later.


Are you kidding me? I don't mean to sound like an asshole here, but why the hell would you make assumptions about the underlying pyschology of people you've never met?

First off, to me, it seems like flaking on a girl shows tremendous confidence--confident that you are able to flake on a girl and still keep her interested in you...contrast this with an AFC (or wannabe PUA) needy guy who would do everything to keep his plans with an HB. I believe it was written somewhere in the game that in order to get a girl you have to be willing to lose her....well actually I think you have to communicate to her that you are willing to lose her, and flaking on her does just that--it shows you have the confidence to lose her--knowing you can find another one later.

Girls flake on me all the damn time, is this a sign they're insecure and trying to fake some sort of confidence on me? Yeah....more likely Im just not that important too them---which is exactly what BR is trying to communicate to them (I think anyway...)

And what the hell is up with you of all people bashing someone as being insecure? I've winged with both you and BR, and though it's been a while, I recall you having to build up some fake confidence in order to approach...even then you damn near had an anxioty attack. While BR might have some sticking points, confidence--guinuine confidence is not one of them...

True confidence is knowing that your personality alone is enough to attract women, and knowing you don't have to memorize a bunch of fake non-congruent routines, and reading every e-book & post on mASF (and reposting them all here)

Sorry, but your post hit a nerve. I'm sick of people who have no clue bashing people that are obviously way better than them...This really applies to a lot of people on here, so don't take this personally.

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