i m quite happy to change my approach to women
i can be quite funny and good with C/f and i can also put on magic tricks!!!
but my sticking point is being in the mood !! i think thats a problem shared by a lot f guys !!
i m much better in the moning
if i can go sarging in the afternoon it s a lost case and i m lost to the pussyworld !!!
PEACOCKED
HOW DO YOU COPE WITH YOUR MOODS?
SELF ESTEEM
mine is fairly ok!! i believe i m a worthy guy and am as good as anybody else!!
ioften repet to myself ' i m a great guy .... ' i got everything going for me !!! i m just perfect '
SHOPPING MALLS
do you think they are ok places to sarge ?
verbatim
DO YOU THINK YOU COULD FOR THE SAKE OF THE FUTURE GROWING PUA COMMUNITY GIVE US TYPICAL CONVOS YOU COUL HAVE WITH A HOTTIE AT YOUR SUPERMARKET,?
FINALLY
can you analyze th process you went thru to become good with the girls?
COULD YOU COMPARE IT WITH THE PROCESS OF LEARNING A NEW SKILL LIKE MAGIC OR PIANOPLAYING OR WHATEVER
THANX
I BELIEVE YOUR CONTRIBUTION LL HELP LOADS OF US FUTURE PUAs
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by peacocked » Sun Feb 19, 2006 4:15 pm
Vuurvalk,
Since you asked, here's some responses and some thoughts for you and the other PUAs and aspiring PUAs who read the forums.
1. Moods
Everyone gets approach anxiety, even the best PUAs in the world. Mood is just the product of emotion, which is the product of a series of chemical impulses designed to influence our behavior as it needed to be influenced 40,000 years ago in a tribal society. It's simply not relevant to our daily lives, now.
Like David D. says, rejection is never as bad as the fear of rejection. Actual rejection happens rarely and actually pretty gently. To get "In the mood," you first have to get over the fear of rejection. Unfortunately, the fear of rejection is very real and something you just have to sack up and get over.
The way to get over it is either by ignoring it, affirming yourself against it, or reminding yourself that if you succumb to it and you DON'T approach (in any environment, whether you're comfortable or not), your genes will be "unapologetically weeded out of existence," as Mystery puts it.
Bottom line, "mood" is just an operative working against you in the game. Shut it out and proceed with confidence. Rule number 1 is always confidence.
2. Shopping malls, supermarkets, other attraction locations
Well as I've said before, yes I think shopping malls and supermarkets are fine places to sarge. In fact, the obstacles you encounter at bars (women on guard because they've already been approached 15 times that night by skeezy, boring guys) aren't there at malls and supermarkets, so you're almost at an advantage.
One David D. routine that he suggests for shopping malls is approaching women who work at stores, since the fear of rejection is nil since they HAVE to talk to you. An opener he uses is "Excuse me, do you own this store? No? Good, then you won't mind if I steal a few things." Get them laughing, practice being funny and interesting without being weird. Practice your body language and nonverbal communication to appear nonthreatening and friendly.
As far as walking through a routine I'd use at a supermarket, any conversation starter is fine. For example, you're at the milk and a hottie walks by. The following can start a fun, playful conversation.
PUA: Hey, one sec, question.
HB: Yeah?
PUA: True or false, I'm cute enough now to quit buying skim milk and go back to whole? (it's important to remember that she doesn't have to answer the question, it's just a way to start the convo)
Remember, funny doesn't get you laid. PLAYFUL gets you laid. Any opener can work. How about trying this:
PUA: Hey, wanna do me a favor?
HB: ...?
PUA: Go run about 3 or 4 aisles over, I'm gonna see how far I can throw a frozen turkey and I need somebody to catch it.
If you can get her laughing, you can get her defenses down. Remember, the goal of a PUA is simply NOT to trigger a woman's flight responses. A line like "Hey baby should I buy dinner for one or two tonight? wink wink" WILL immediately trigger a woman's flight responses.
It all goes back to being confident and interesting. Be unapologetically hilarious, be aggressive but friendly. Feel out the situation and calibrate to it, and as always, if you run out of material or feel you're losing her, a simple "Pleasure meeting you" will do to release her comfortably from the conversation.
3. Learning process
Well, I was always a natural, but becoming better at pickup actually forced me to un-learn some of the things I'd learned as a natural. For example, my body language was always a little too aggressive (leaning in toward sets at bars, etc.), when I needed to be less involved with my body language. As Lovedrop suggests, if you find yourself fidgeting or otherwise betraying your body language, just stand perfectly still.
Another thing I had to work on was my transition or phase-shifting game. Before, I'd linger too long in the attraction stages, even far after a woman was attracted to me. It's my opinion that you can actually LOSE a woman's attraction by playing attraction game after she's already attracted to you. It's important to pay attention to the signals and switch off the cocky-funny and allow yourself to be vulnerable, and to let her in that you actually dig her too.
Finally, the best tool for learning is to go out and approach, approach, approach. Even if your goal isn't to get numbers, you should do openers and attraction routines and then disengage with "It was a pleasure meeting you." Hell, girls might even offer their numbers to you without you even trying.
Anyway, just approach approach approach approach until it becomes second nature. You may never be completely comfortable approaching hot women, but you'll at least know that you have something to offer them once you've attracted them, and that's the most important thing.
Pretty soon, i'm going to write a post about a longtime theory of mine that is the basis for all my game. Keep an eye out for that.
Anyway, hope this helped, feel free to ask away if you have more questions. Good luck sarging, friend.
Since you asked, here's some responses and some thoughts for you and the other PUAs and aspiring PUAs who read the forums.
1. Moods
Everyone gets approach anxiety, even the best PUAs in the world. Mood is just the product of emotion, which is the product of a series of chemical impulses designed to influence our behavior as it needed to be influenced 40,000 years ago in a tribal society. It's simply not relevant to our daily lives, now.
Like David D. says, rejection is never as bad as the fear of rejection. Actual rejection happens rarely and actually pretty gently. To get "In the mood," you first have to get over the fear of rejection. Unfortunately, the fear of rejection is very real and something you just have to sack up and get over.
The way to get over it is either by ignoring it, affirming yourself against it, or reminding yourself that if you succumb to it and you DON'T approach (in any environment, whether you're comfortable or not), your genes will be "unapologetically weeded out of existence," as Mystery puts it.
Bottom line, "mood" is just an operative working against you in the game. Shut it out and proceed with confidence. Rule number 1 is always confidence.
2. Shopping malls, supermarkets, other attraction locations
Well as I've said before, yes I think shopping malls and supermarkets are fine places to sarge. In fact, the obstacles you encounter at bars (women on guard because they've already been approached 15 times that night by skeezy, boring guys) aren't there at malls and supermarkets, so you're almost at an advantage.
One David D. routine that he suggests for shopping malls is approaching women who work at stores, since the fear of rejection is nil since they HAVE to talk to you. An opener he uses is "Excuse me, do you own this store? No? Good, then you won't mind if I steal a few things." Get them laughing, practice being funny and interesting without being weird. Practice your body language and nonverbal communication to appear nonthreatening and friendly.
As far as walking through a routine I'd use at a supermarket, any conversation starter is fine. For example, you're at the milk and a hottie walks by. The following can start a fun, playful conversation.
PUA: Hey, one sec, question.
HB: Yeah?
PUA: True or false, I'm cute enough now to quit buying skim milk and go back to whole? (it's important to remember that she doesn't have to answer the question, it's just a way to start the convo)
Remember, funny doesn't get you laid. PLAYFUL gets you laid. Any opener can work. How about trying this:
PUA: Hey, wanna do me a favor?
HB: ...?
PUA: Go run about 3 or 4 aisles over, I'm gonna see how far I can throw a frozen turkey and I need somebody to catch it.
If you can get her laughing, you can get her defenses down. Remember, the goal of a PUA is simply NOT to trigger a woman's flight responses. A line like "Hey baby should I buy dinner for one or two tonight? wink wink" WILL immediately trigger a woman's flight responses.
It all goes back to being confident and interesting. Be unapologetically hilarious, be aggressive but friendly. Feel out the situation and calibrate to it, and as always, if you run out of material or feel you're losing her, a simple "Pleasure meeting you" will do to release her comfortably from the conversation.
3. Learning process
Well, I was always a natural, but becoming better at pickup actually forced me to un-learn some of the things I'd learned as a natural. For example, my body language was always a little too aggressive (leaning in toward sets at bars, etc.), when I needed to be less involved with my body language. As Lovedrop suggests, if you find yourself fidgeting or otherwise betraying your body language, just stand perfectly still.
Another thing I had to work on was my transition or phase-shifting game. Before, I'd linger too long in the attraction stages, even far after a woman was attracted to me. It's my opinion that you can actually LOSE a woman's attraction by playing attraction game after she's already attracted to you. It's important to pay attention to the signals and switch off the cocky-funny and allow yourself to be vulnerable, and to let her in that you actually dig her too.
Finally, the best tool for learning is to go out and approach, approach, approach. Even if your goal isn't to get numbers, you should do openers and attraction routines and then disengage with "It was a pleasure meeting you." Hell, girls might even offer their numbers to you without you even trying.
Anyway, just approach approach approach approach until it becomes second nature. You may never be completely comfortable approaching hot women, but you'll at least know that you have something to offer them once you've attracted them, and that's the most important thing.
Pretty soon, i'm going to write a post about a longtime theory of mine that is the basis for all my game. Keep an eye out for that.
Anyway, hope this helped, feel free to ask away if you have more questions. Good luck sarging, friend.
- peacocked
by Riley » Sun Feb 19, 2006 4:57 pm
Hey, this is Riley. I wing for Peacocked most nights and I have a few concerns.
Moods and feelings of anxiety are nautral. Anxiety is programmed into our being because it keeps us alive and away from dangerous situations. To overcome this I can do three things when out sarging:
1) Always follow the three second rule. As textbook as this is, it works. You won't have enough time to have any feelings of anxiety. Do this with a smile and an opinion opener (I always use "does this make me look gay?) with confidence and have fun.
2) Adopt another personality. You cannot be yourself. You wouldn't have gotten into the game if your true self pulled HB 10's. You think Riley's my real name? No, Riley is a masters student with confidence and random jobs directing comercials. Riley is above the HB's. Which brings me to my next point:
3)Don't try to be with them. Make them want to be with you. They are getting the privelege of knowing you. You are the life of the party. You have great stories. This is a universal concept to sarging.
Have fun in the field.
P.S. judging from the context clues of your posts I have a couple comments. Either English is not your native tongue or you are very young. If the latter is true, then you should try malls instead of supermarkets. A good one is Northpark. I try to hit it up for targets at least once a week.
Moods and feelings of anxiety are nautral. Anxiety is programmed into our being because it keeps us alive and away from dangerous situations. To overcome this I can do three things when out sarging:
1) Always follow the three second rule. As textbook as this is, it works. You won't have enough time to have any feelings of anxiety. Do this with a smile and an opinion opener (I always use "does this make me look gay?) with confidence and have fun.
2) Adopt another personality. You cannot be yourself. You wouldn't have gotten into the game if your true self pulled HB 10's. You think Riley's my real name? No, Riley is a masters student with confidence and random jobs directing comercials. Riley is above the HB's. Which brings me to my next point:
3)Don't try to be with them. Make them want to be with you. They are getting the privelege of knowing you. You are the life of the party. You have great stories. This is a universal concept to sarging.
Have fun in the field.
P.S. judging from the context clues of your posts I have a couple comments. Either English is not your native tongue or you are very young. If the latter is true, then you should try malls instead of supermarkets. A good one is Northpark. I try to hit it up for targets at least once a week.
does this make me look gay?
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