Telling a friend...

[Pr0wler]

What do you think of telling your friends about the community... I'm having mixed feelings about it. On one hand i want to let them know that their is a community dedicated to fixing the problems that i see my friends have, but on the other hand i dont want to oversaturate the field with people, especially friends who are running the same routines and using the same theory... What do you guys think? Is there a line that should be drawn on the amount of people you expose to this?

[The Kidd]

i dunno prowler but ive been feeling the same way..... i told a few of my friends about the game before i read it and now im regreting it cause alot of them want "in" but i dont think i want them in. To me this is my secret weapon that i wanna protect.

[Neuromancer]

I was talking to Mojo about this and I liked what he said. Don't recruit. Guys find the PU community when they are ready. My 2 closest friends both know about the technology. One's a guy and one's a girl and they both have a different take on it. She thinks It's manipulative but supports me because she believes I will do the right thing. He thinks It's cool but doesn't want to get active until he looses a few hundred pounds.

I think active recruiting is a phase we go through because we know it's cool and want people to know we found this cool thing that we are learning. I am realizing that unless there is a situation that gets them proactive about self change and realization they won't stick with it. It's that whole "You can lead a whore to culture but you can't make her think" thing.

Go ahead and recruit if you feel you must but in the end, it won't do them or your any good so what's the use. As far as your friends go, invite them in, if they are really on the path they will stay, if not, their loss.

[Pr0wler]

Yah... I feel the same way. While i've been part of the grand scheme in the pick up arts for a few months now, the glimmer factor of it all is still very much there. This technology is powerful stuff in not only allowing you to talk to women, but also in being the best person you possibly can be. It's just difficult to not let a friend know when hes having girl problems, but Deucex you bring a good point. I can lead them to the water, but i can't make them drink. I'm starting to slowly realize that personal improvement and a willingness to learn are really the only methods to truly learn this. A genuine interest is crucial for success. I think i'm going to make it a point to only let the people know that i truly believe want it...

[Gambit]

agreed prowler... There are a few friends that I want to tell that you know of but some I have mixed feelings about.

There are people that come out of highschool with 3 year relationships and then all of the sudden that ends and they're clueless on what that want to do from there and how do to it... (I'm pretty sure you know who I'm talkin to prowler) I really want to talk to him and tell him what I know and enjoy about it the most... I'll let him borrow a few of my books, have him tell me what he thinks, then let him decide for himself if this is something he wants to become a part of. just like you said you can lead them to the water, but you can't make them drink. That's for them to decide.

But then there are friends that want in the community but I look at them and I see a future disaster (hate to put it that way but it's true). And I agree with the overflowing the community with friends that may be using the same routines and such.

I would totally hate if I were to start a routine and them say, "Ya this 1 guy told me the exact same thing here yesterday."

I guess where I'm tryin to get at is my personal belief is to be very frugal and decisive about who you "recruit."

[The Kidd]

nicely put voul!!!! i guess thats whats been going on in my head. careful how many and who i introduce.

[Neuromancer]

It's ok to have someone use the same patterns as you. It causes innovation. If they want to learn bring them aboard. The thing is most people refuse to learn. The quick fix is all they want. This is not an easy path but it is an exciting one. If they can't get past the trials of the self they will never learn to use what we are learning effectively. I don't want to be the cause of that failure in my friends. We can show them the way but it is up to them to walk the path on their own. Damn, I have read to many books on metaphysics.

When one of my best friends asked me about joining a coven she found I told her, "Magic is a solitary path. You will meet others on that path and sometimes you will walk the same path for a while but you must always remember that the path is yours to walk and following theirs will always eventually take you astray of your own path."

We cannot show others where to tread, only show them that there is a path and it leads to enlightenment. Holy shit what is this I'm talking about, I should have stopped writing two posts ago.

[The Kidd]

wow.....thats some deep sh*T very very deep.......

[Gambit]

lol very well put "Deuce the Enlightened One." hahaha jk

[Neuromancer]

So you guys are saying "Don't drink and type"?