Help me with this stripper!

[Bull Run]

man i know they can be hot, but why waste time going after a stripper when there are so many hot normal women.

sure you said you don't want an LTR, but why deal with any of the baggage...

Aw fuck, this again...

Can we all stop acting like strippers are some sort of abnormal emotionally unstable women? (NOTE: Yes, I know emotionally unstable women is a pleonasm--but I don't care)

I realize that statistically, women who are strippers are statistically more likely to have been sexually abused and more likely to be addicted to drugs... But these are the factors I screen on, not profession.

I've met several strippers that are quite intelligent and very stable. I recall one stripper I met in a bar that was (almost) able to keep up with me in a conversation about finance & investing. She had arranged her life financially far more responsibly than almost all non-stripper girls. And yet her number one complaint was how guys (and her family) judge her for being a stripper.

Do you have any idea how fast Lord Westfall would rip his clothes off if people pay him to do so? Regretablly they do not, however, I would argue that being a stripper would be the natural outcome of logical thought for a rational girl. Think about it, show a little interest to AFC guys get paid barrels of $$$....it's almost illogical not to be a stripper.

It is extremely arrogant, judgemental, and condesending to assume a girl is not normal or unstable just because she is a stripper.

Damn, I just thought of a great opener at the airport.

WF: I'd love to get to know you but I don't date women with a lot of baggage...

Westfall

WF you make a great point, especially the part about the rational thing to do is to get paid to take off their clothes.

BUT I'm not sure I've ever met or known of someone having a well adjusted, healthy relationship with a stripper. I sure as hell know I haven't.

I think there's a bigger issue here. It seems every man, in the Community and otherwise, put such a premium on these generally disfunctional subset of women. What's the allure with strippers?

Admitedly I'm guilty of the above to a certain extent.

[JP2008]

Do you have any idea how fast Lord Westfall would rip his clothes off if people pay him to do so? Regretablly they do not, however, I would argue that being a stripper would be the natural outcome of logical thought for a rational girl. Think about it, show a little interest to AFC guys get paid barrels of $$$....it's almost illogical not to be a stripper.

Westfall

I got some singles!

[Howiestern]

What's the allure with strippers?

It's an alpha male thing........the fact that there are hundreds of guys every day that she talks to who would all love to tag her sexy ass and you were the one skilled enough to make it happen. Unlike the other chumps that kept feeding her money, you got her number, met up later, and scored. Mission Accomplished.

I also find a "stripper" to be very exotic and that's appealing as well as the fact that she's confident enough to get naked in front of you and your buddies! lol.

On a side note, seeing a woman naked before you date her is never a bad idea. I also like to find out if the pink is gonna stink before hand!

Never leave home without noseplugs

[Bull Run]

I also find a "stripper" to be very exotic and that's appealing as well as the fact that she's confident enough to get naked in front of you and your buddies!

It's not confidence. It's that she's emotionally detached from taking her clothes off in front of men and it's because she gets paid mad, fat money to do so. It's not confidence.

[Westfall]

I also find a "stripper" to be very exotic and that's appealing as well as the fact that she's confident enough to get naked in front of you and your buddies!

It's not confidence. It's that she's emotionally detached from taking her clothes off in front of men and it's because she gets paid mad, fat money to do so. It's not confidence.

This is very true. I recall being at one a while back, and noticed an attractive black girl wearing a sexy dress (but classy) dress. She was sitting alone and seemed sad.

My douchy wingman was doing nothing but complaining about how the women weren't approaching him, and this was the first night I wanted to try out AFC Adam London's game, so I approach this girl (I don't find black chicks attractive, and wouldn't have approached otherwise).

Turns out, she was a stripper. She had ben turned down 3 times for a lap dance and was extremely sad...I don't think she was emotionally unstable, but she certainly lacked confidence...

I talked with her, told her she was dressed too classy and that most girl probably didn't think she was a stripper. I got her in a great mood, and sent her on her way smiling. Now I have social proof there!

BR raises a good question about why most men think of strippers as some sort of premium. I've k-closed//#-closed a lot of strippers. They certainly don't deserve a premium anymore than they deserve an non-normal label.

I disagree with Howie about the alpha male thing. A real alpha male doesn't care if hundereds of guys want their girl or not--he doesn't need the ego boost. Personally, I'd prefer they not... It's a pain in the ass to have to blow out every goddamn douchebag guy that comes up and tries to hit on your girl because he mistakingly things he can steal her from you...you can't have an ego about this anyway...

Besides, there are hundereds of chumps that want to fuck any attractive girl. So what?

Westfall

[Howiestern]

Westfall-

Chump or No Chump, everybody wants to fuck an attractive girl!

So what is the whole game about then if it's not about satisfying "ego"?

[Westfall]

Westfall-

Chump or No Chump, everybody wants to fuck an attractive girl!

So what is the whole game about then if it's not about satisfying "ego"?

...about understanding social dynamics, being able to bring desirable women into your life, attaining the confiedence that "just being yourself" really is all you need to do to attract women...with a little bit of awareness, of course.

My personal goals as stated before is not "to fuck an attractive girl", as I have set a much higher goal for myself--I am seeking to build an incredable LTR with a truly awesome girl....to me that is far more fullfilling than emotinally void sexs....which can be quite fun, but is certinaly not the end goal for me.

Besides, not all strippers are attractive..Id say the average stripper is probably a 7...

WF

[Bull Run]

Westfall-

Chump or No Chump, everybody wants to fuck an attractive girl!

So what is the whole game about then if it's not about satisfying "ego"?

...about understanding social dynamics, being able to bring desirable women into your life, attaining the confiedence that "just being yourself" really is all you need to do to attract women...with a little bit of awareness, of course.

I concur. The Game should be about self-actualization. If you're here to feed your ego or pick up strippers or get laid then you'll become a robot with no true identity. Instead, others will define you because you'll mold yourself to pick up or attract the next girl...essentially, you'll be taking social commands hence the robot analogy.

I am seeking to build an incredable LTR with a truly awesome girl....to me that is far more fullfilling than emotinally void sexs....which can be quite fun, but is certinaly not the end goal for me.

To be honest, I've questioned the ability for your Game to be incorporated in a healthy LTR. I just don't think Game works within the confines of a committed, healthy LTR. I don't have supporting evidence, it's just a theory I've been trying to work out in my head.

[Westfall]

To be honest, I've questioned the ability for your Game to be incorporated in a healthy LTR. I just don't think Game works within the confines of a committed, healthy LTR. I don't have supporting evidence, it's just a theory I've been trying to work out in my head.

My game in particular or game in general? I've worked out a theory in my head for relationship game. I've done quite a bit of analysis of relationships that Ive seen that worked, once that haven't (including from my past) and tried to analyze why they fail/succede in a manner that is congruent with PUA knowledge. I think I've found it, the way to maintain a healthy LTR is to be guinuine & honest for the most part, to not put unreasonable expectations on the girl---don't sleep with anyone else ever... this is incredablly stupid IMO and will force the girl to hide things from you when the passion dies down and she becomes more and more tempted to 'cheat', to maintain your ability to get other HBs so she knows she has to work to keep you---make her feel that she is REPLACABLE but at the same time SPECIAL to you...also continue to suprize her with random spontanity so she still gets a sense of mystery about you....

And as always break rapport every now and then...

Westfall

[omni]

Yeah, I just wanted some help because this girl is HOT. She seemed normal enough (notwithstanding the "daddy issues" comment). If she'd been a waitress at Hooters or a bank teller, I'd have been asking about those particular challenges. I don't have a thing for--or against--strippers.

My biggest challenge is finding the really target-rich environments (suggestions?). That's why I don't like to let an opportunity w/ someone this good-looking go by, especially when she seems at least a little interested. Maybe I go to the wrong places, but there aren't many 8-9.5s around that I've seen (suggestions?). There are a LOT of 6s though.