Monday Nite out and about

[p4nzer]

JP, Knight Rose and Myself went out again tonight. They went out around 730 and I joined them around 10. The two venues we kept switching back and forth from was the usual blackfinn and sherlocks. Blackfinn was packed with hot woman that night while sherlocks was kind of slow.

The first set I opened was a Latino woman in her 30s that look kinda like the woman you see on the telemundo soaps. Hit it off great with her, I think my opener was what are you doing out on a Monday night. She ended up saying she was here with someone but I didn't care and just kept plowing through.

I was like oh so you're one of those girls that meets guys, go on dates with them and then get free drinks from them. I dont recall her response but I replied with so do you think you can you get this guy to get me a drink? Do you think he likes you enough? I think she nods her head then like laughs or something. Then we ended up talking about asians in her home country of puerto viagara (however u spell/prononuance that). Had good eye contact, lots of smiles/giggles and one touch from her. She ends up getting me a drink right before her "date" appears (was tempted to say K thx for the drink bye!)

Anyways her date ends up comming back and its this 6"foot black dude. Built rapport with him like Where do you meet all this beautiful woman at blahblah. After talking about that for a few, the dude is like If she's into you she all yours or somethign to that effect and that when youre with a beautiful woman you have to be prepared for her to get hit on. I replied o i was just here taking care of her for you (I couldnt tell if he was trying to amog me this was my first situation like this). I end up giving the girl two kisses on both cheeks and jetted. <more>

I then wing knight rose with his set of a really hot indian chick atleast a 8.5 and her less attractive friend. It was great, had the obstacle attention fully focused on me and even on their afc male friend that ended up comming later. I bump into obstacle later into the night with her indian friend/male friend. Make a witty comment and then a lightbulb went off in my head and I was like why am i talking to you still? WTF am I winging for when noone is here to talk to the target? I guess I got into the moment of winging so I just look towards teh entrance and leave.

I opened another asian hb9 later but hesistated and got blown out totally for the first time. She just had her back towards me. I think next time I will say damn I've talked to walls more interesting than you (not sure what the ramifications of this will be hoping I dont get my ass beat by a girl). Also purposely blew myself out (courtsey of bullrun)when I was walking by these two girls dancing dirty on one another. I go wow girl on girl action (no smile just regular serious face) The uglier of the girl looks me straight in the eye and goes Fuck you! Couldnt help but smile to myself while I walk away (im a sick person). I wonder what the psychology behind this is. If i was dancing with some guy and a girl said damn hot guy on guy action I would be like hell ya!

I end up bumping into the black guy again. And he was buying knight rose's indian girl a drink. This dude ends up being a general all round nice guy AFC. I asked him why he was buying her a drink and he said that she was gonna get the next round (I willing to lay 5-1 that he didnt get his drink ) and then I noticed his date was gone. I was like WTF where she go? And he said she ended up going home. WTH this girl was here on vacation and it was so obvious she was looking for some lays before she went back to her home country!!!!!!!!! Westfall, I need your help, you seem good and making people leave, how should I have played this so that this guy would have left?

Finally opened my final two set in sherlocks with an opener from playercool (thx bud). Good opener but didnt have a wing to distract obstacle. Is it possible to split a two set or get a number from one of the girls in a two set without a wing?

Last, I am just so tired. I've been out 4 days in a row (one was a poker night) and I can't stop thinking of the game. I think I will take a break and recoup, last night I didnt sleep well cause I was getting chills even with 3-4 blankets. Not sure if this is a symptom of too much gaming or maybe that latino chick was trying to drug me and take advantage of me (which is fine by me).

So I've improved on my winging game but still have much much more to improve on. I've averaged 3 openers per night and part of the problem is I hate using the same opener. I use them once and then I discard it like a condom. I have to do something about this cause it's limiting the amount of sets I open.

If you members in the community can help me with:
rooting DHV stories after openers
get rid of people you want out of a set (assigning this to you WF)
Is it possible to split a two set or get a number from one of the girls in a two set without a wing?
New venues (we're starting to get recognized at sherlocks employees hehe)

Cheers!

[JP2008]

I think you are doing great man. Your posts are cracking me up too. See you when I get back from LA.

JP

[playercool]

I agree with JP that is an interesting post.

Here is my take on your questioning.

The latino chick was not with big black dude. Sure they might be sleeping together or dating but def not together 100%. So if you ran tight game even in front of the guy you had a chance with her.

Still relating to the latino chick don't kiss another girl on the cheek. This is my take but I would never do that. I feel it is an AFC move. Even if you built some good rapport and you were going in for a kiss and she turns her face...stop. Don't you dare kiss her cheek.

Next I know it sucks but I would use some canned openers if I were you. For one you will get really good with that opener(s). You will know it word for word and on top of that you will know word for word what to say next. So no matter their response you will have the perfect thing to say next. Sets will start sounding identical. You will start hearing the same crap over and over. This will make your transitions so freaking smooth. Yes it will get boring but is getting laid boring? That is what I thought.

It sounds like you winged rose pretty good. When the girls walked by you later you could use them for SP. Don't feel like you are still winging feel like they are your friends and people(girls) around you see that you are friends with them. Your a friendly person who knows a lot of people. So when you go up to that group of girls right near you they just think you are a friendly guy who likes to meet people. Another thing don't ever think a set is dead. If I eject a set I always feel like it is approachable later in the evening. I can't even tell you how many times I opened sets, ejected, and opened them again in the night with great success. You are in a small venue. You will see the same people later in that night. Make the best of it.

With HB9 Asian just try to learn what you did wrong. Not trying to be a dick but you prob did everything wrong. In two months you will see her again and she will open up because your game will be tight.

When I see two girls dancing even remotely bad I tell them to keep it PG13. This at least opens them a little as I am not saying anything rude. I use this at least once a night when I am out and there is a dance floor. I don't like saying girl on girl action because it sounds like they might hear that a lot. But dude use it again and get blown out. It will be fun. Or say it then tell them you are gay and it's nice to see some people from the community out at a straight bar. I guarantee that will open the set wide open(No we aren't gay). Damn I might have to use that. Ohh it's alright girls you don't have to keep secrets from me. It took me a while to come out of the closet as well. No Im telling you we aren't lovers or gay. Ohh that's alright me neither so...go into routine here. How do you guys know each other or whatever. I will be field testing this one soon.

Understand that when you open a two set of HB's it is your duty to keep both of them occupied. You have no choice but to keep both of them involved in the conversation. If one is left out she will pull the other one away 99% of the time. So while there are all sorts of possibilities of the ways this could play out yes you can number close here. Isolating is much harder here as she won't want to leave her friend alone.

Last, I am just so tired. I've been out 4 days in a row (one was a poker night) and I can't stop thinking of the game

It is very addicting. Just wait till the game pays off and you have mLTR's and you are pretty much out every night of the week either with them or sarging. Now that is tiring.

[p4nzer]

I pretty damn sure that that was their first date and the chick left cause that guy was boring her to death. Nice dude but was completely AFC.

Appreciate the comments on the kiss and was wondering myself whether that was a good move or not. I actually moved in on it on my own but next time I guess if the girl initiates I will just say I do not kiss on the first date.

As for the asian hb9 i opened. I psyched myself out by waiting too long and hesistating. I dont think you're being a dick by saying I fucked up because I defintely did fuck up 100%. In fact, I would prefer you guys to be as harsh and critical as possible. It will help me improve faster.

JP, see ya when you get back man, heard them LA bitches are hot.

[p4nzer]

So while there are all sorts of possibilities of the ways this could play out yes you can number close here. Isolating is much harder here as she won't want to leave her friend alone.

Im interested in knowing how a number close would be possible in a two-set scenario.

[Smirks]

So while there are all sorts of possibilities of the ways this could play out yes you can number close here. Isolating is much harder here as she won't want to leave her friend alone.

Im interested in knowing how a number close would be possible in a two-set scenario.

Win over the obstacle...and she should be okay with a bit of isolation here and there throughout the night. I wouldn't totally isolate...that's just rude.

"I'm going to borrow your friend for a second..."

Crap like that. During one of the isolations, pop the question.

[playercool]

If a girl is into me I have no problem number closing right in front of her friend(s). I just act like they don't exist when I ask the question.