Can we....

[Finesse]

I would like to start a Skills Section of this board that focuses on different parts of the game so that way we have collaborative sections on material for each part of the game. ... I.E.

a section on the forum that focuses on attraction material..

a section that focuses on AA, or approach logistics.

Qualifying,

Comfort,

Framing,

Escalation.

Seduction

and so on....

Any thoughts?

[Finesse]

I mean expanding the current tactics and techniques section.... explode it and sectionalize it. Organize a little better.

[Thaddeus]

ok I'm game

[Vector]

I would like to start a Skills Section of this board that focuses on different parts of the game so that way we have collaborative sections on material for each part of the game. ...

I like where this is going.

Help me clarify, when you say collaborate it makes me think of creating a resource and a forum may not be the best tool for that, because older stuff sinks to the bottom and is forgotten about. Also the forums tend to be "messy" in the sense that incomplete ideas are often thrown around, which is required for discussion but you don't always want that in a final product.

I'm also a little concerned about spreading the discussion too thin across too many sections. There are already 14 topics for Lounge members. If we're dividing by sections there will really be a lot of sections. You listed 7, but there's also Phone/Text game, Body language & Tonality, and NLP to name a few. Also there is a lot of overlap, say between escalation and seduction, or between framing and everything else.

What if there were a resource page, "Finesse on Comfort" and "Finesse on Framing" and so forth (and for other users too), which were set up to be editable? You could have a link, "to comment on this page, click here" which goes to a thread on the forum. So discussion would still occur on the forums, but may not require separate sections.

Oh and how public do you want it to be? Open to anyone? Or just Members? Or just Lounge members?

I think it would be great if it became a public resource. There is a lot of valuable stuff in these forums, but like I said, it sinks to the bottom and is forgotten about. I like the idea of collaborating to put together material for the different areas of game.

[El Fenix]

Could be a sub section of the "best of forum" Keep the quality stuff on any topic easily accessible.

[dubya]

I really like this idea. And I think moving in the direction of a resource like Vector has described would be the best way. When I have a question the first thing I do is use the search function for the forum. A categorized list like this would be perfect. It would take less time than searching through the glut in the forum. It would make the forum less of a mess. And questions within the Tactics section would become more specific.

[Finesse]

I see the point on the posts sinking to the bottom. Unfortunately most people only check the forums. So if we were to put it someplace else, it may not get alot of traffic.

What I'm talking about is mainly reposts of the great posts from like Sinn, CJ, ET, and so on. And also Insights from other members as well.

What I had in mind was it be on the forum. with the primary quotes on it as stickies that are locked. and then regular discussion could commense underneath it.

My goal is to stimulate conversation about such topics throughout DallasPUA in a more organized fashion. Some people love posting about NLP and Frames... Some AA and openers. I think foundational information for each section of the game though is crucial to be able to locate at any given point. Thus the stickies are involved. As more posts are brought up... who knows we could possibly put it on a resources page.

We could tie several things together. For instance, I think, AA, Opening and disqualifying could go together....Framing for one, Qualifying and Attraction could be one. escalation and comfort another, phone/text game and C&F, body language and tonality one, NLP and anchoring, and finally LMR and seduction therefore it knocks things done but still people have a general location to go for specific information.

[Vector]

Unfortunately most people only check the forums. So if we were to put it someplace else, it may not get alot of traffic.

I agree that this is a problem, and it is one of the primary reasons I'm hoping to move to the new system. The system you describe could work, but I'm thinking the goal you seek might be better achieved with a different tool.

At my last job we had a wiki (one of our executives had an idea we should "get with the times," but that's a different story). And they attempted to use it to "stimulate innovation" which basically meant they tried to use it as a forum. People would edit the main page to add their responses, and yeah it kinda sorta "worked," in the sense that it was possible to document a thread of conversation. But sometimes author information was omitted on the comments, and there was no ordering of which topics were most recent, so there was no way to see if there were responses that might need responding to. So it was basically unusable. Wrong tool for the job.

I think using the forum for resources probably wouldn't be as bad as that. But for example as the list of sticky resource topics expanded, the list of sticky topics would just grow and grow and the discussion would get pushed lower and lower, while the resources section stayed empty.

(I had written a comparison of blogs vs wikis vs forums here but I deleted it because it was mostly trying to steer the solution in a certain direction.)

I think the essential question is, what should be the division between the forum and resources? And how should they be linked to each other?

Right now blog articles are sometimes cross-posted into the forum and discussion ensues, which is fine, but I sometimes think it might make sense to have it organized differently. I don't come to the forum to read gurus' blogs. I come to the forum to see what my friends in Dallas are thinking about and what ideas they have. If they read something and they have something to add, that's cool, I'm interested in that and there should be a place for that.

Here's a possible solution. For resources that are external (i.e. from external blog posts or articles), someone can cross-post the article into a basically static resource page and create a forum thread for discussion of that resource. The forum thread would include a link to the resource page and the resource page would have a link to the forum thread, "click here to discuss this article". Since the article is static, it could also be copied into the first post on the thread.

For resources that are internal (written by one of our members), the resource page would still have a parallel foum thread for discussion. The page would be editable by the author, perhaps in response to the discussion, or gaining insight over time.

For either type of resource, there would be other pages for convenient navigation. There could be a "Framing Resources" page, and a "AA Resources" page, and so forth. A particular article could be linked to from multiple navigation pages if it addresses multiple areas. There could also be sticky links from the forum to the resource navigation pages, but perhaps not to the individual resources themselves.


I guess I can't help but try to steer the solution in a certain direction. But really this is just a proposed organization.

[Finesse]

ACK I hate when it shows that I have read this, when I obviously havent.

I think that could work Vector. I like that idea. If anything gets to the point where it becomes must have advice, we could always just move it to the "best of" section.

[Guest]

Hey if all else fails you can take credit for the original concept...But i like the idea however it shakes out.