Current wing cockblocking?

[playercool]

Lately it seems as though my friend/wing is either intentionally or unintentionally fucking up my sets. I will either open or be opened and he will step in and screw things up. I want my friend to have a good time when we go out. In fact I would be more than happy to get him the girl. Within the first few seconds of the interaction he has been stepping in and amoging me. This leads to the girl(s) becoming not interested in either of us.

This guy is an extremely good friend and works for me. How should I approach this? I really don't even think he realizes what he is doing. My only thought is the next time we are pre-gaming at my house to drop this on him. Or should I just deal with it since he is a good friend and never mention it. While I think he is hurting my game a bit I can definately over come it by stepping things up. Just another challenge so to speak.

Any thoughts?

[Professor]

That one is up to you but if it were me: If he was a pretty good friend I would just let him know how I see things and ask if he could tone that down. If not, and you think he might take it personally or something, I would just step my game up or find a way to beat him at his own game...

[Tribulus1000]

Go out alone.
I did this for a while last year. I still do it. Every pooyah should be able to run the entire set from meet to lay theoretically.
If you need people to go out with, try someone on here or just take the guy aside and say "Ok this one's mine...next one is yours"

[zine]

If you explained to him that being like that makes both of you uncool, and that real friends build each other up then I'm sure he would understand. Really honesty would be the best way to deal with him.

[Westfall]

Okay, I shouldn't be posting here because after last weekend's trainwreck, I'm wbAFC. It was really bad. I even had an oppertunity to fuck a midget (4-10") and I blew it...

My advice is to get so good at dealing with his AMOGs that it doesn't matter if he comes in to AMOG you. I used to have this AFC friend in Texarkana, and holy hell he would AMOG me if I opened a set.

This forced me to get good at dealing with some tough AMOGing. A good way to deal with it is just to ignore it, or agree and be non-reactive. You can also practice reframing here. The only thing you have true control over in the set is you. Once you get good enough to deal with his AMOGing, then talk to him.

Westfall

[Bull Run]

If you need people to go out with, try someone on here or just take the guy aside and say "Ok this one's mine...next one is yours"

Even other PUAs trample sets, when they do you have to call them out. This is one of the reasons why I initially worked alone. I think working alone sharpens your game much, much more than going with a wing. Sure, it's harder to approach when you're by yourself BUT when you do finally get in set you have to learn to deal with AMOGs, bitch shields, obstacles, poor logistics, distractions, etc. all while trying to rope in your target. If you can close a target when you're sarging alone, you'll discover your game to be very refined. Lately, I prefer having a wing so that we can discuss what went right and wrong in our interactions and sets. You'll also find that if you find the RIGHT wing, your game will feed off of each other, and it's A LOT more fun if you're having an off night. Nothing sucks more than having an off night by yourself. Then again, if you're really, really on then having a wing can be a drag because you constantly have to be somewhat considerate of what and how they're doing. That's why it's crucial you sarge with others that are at the same level as you...an AFC will be lifted up by someone with more game just as a master will be dragged down by someone with lessor game.

[MagicBalls]

I even had an oppertunity to fuck a midget (4-10") and I blew it...

Goddammit Westfall you used to be my hero and now I just don't know. These doubts that I'm having.... I just can't handle it, just can't.

[Smirks]

Like they said above, if you are good friends...you can talk to him about it. That's the only way wings can learn to calibrate to each other.

For instance, I've been going out regularly with two guys...we take turns winging for one or the other...some times we screw up a set...some times its golden. A few days later the 3 of us get together and go over shit. You're both adults...don't be a dick and he should be able to handle it.

[Twitchy]

I think you have two good options

1) take your friend aside, let him know how he is acting (he may not realize it) and let him know you don't appreciate it. If he reacts well, help him change. If he doesn't, be his friend but quit winging girls with him.

2) Don't tell him anything and use it as practice for "real" AMOGs that you WILL run into. Search for good AMOG tactics and practice them on your buddy.