WF: Situational advice

[Westfall]

Yes, my goal is to LTR her. I don't really care about f-closing her, except as a means to the end of LTRing her.

I was considering making her cum, but not allowing her to make me cum on the first meeting. This would most defeinately differenicate me from every other guy.

I've talked this over with a couple of friends, and I'm thinking of taking her Ice Skating, followed by dinner at a Brazilian restaurant, and then taking her up to the high point to over look the city with all the Christmas lights.

Should I make her pay for dinner? Anywho, how does that sound? My Fayetteville friends won't be up there to provide me social proof--one is going home from college, and the other is going to be in Cali on a business trip...so Ill need social proof, but I suspect I can do that just by talking to lots of people, but this is harder and adds an elimate of uncertiny.

As to this girls looks, she's a 7, and her pictures are real. There are a sufficent number to know that it's her. She doesn't try any of the myspace vodoo tricks some girls try to make themselves look hotter. And of course, I am genuinely more attracted to her personality than her physical apperance.

Part of me wants to call it off and wait for the uncertainty to resolve with her ex, then strike...

Westfall

[dubya]

I would not wait.
I wouldn't be pushy but I would not wait.
The shit with her ex could go either way. You never know.
More importantly... if you wiat, you may wait too long. If you wait, you may not do it. Don't think about it, just do it. Kind of like you were saying to me the other day. Just do it, man. What have you got to lose?

Hell if you really feel like you need social proof, find out if she has a sister/friend or whatever. If it's a night I'm free I'll come wing you. Or maybe Malcolm can.

But dude, If you want to do this don't wait.

[zine]

don't wait women are always emotional about something. There's a reason speaking to them with feeling words is so effective.. it's because that's their language. They are native being this way and stuff like ex drama is just a way of life for many. Be her breath of fresh air distraction from that. Let her feel your masculine stability, and if you want her have the complete belief you will get her.

[Westfall]

Yah, she's starting to message me when I sign on line. In spanish, none the less.

Katie says:
Hola Senor
Katie says:
como estas?
Francisco d'Anconia says:
Hola, Chica
Francisco d'Anconia says:
You're still a dork in Espanol
Katie says:
hahaha
Katie says:
not as much tho!

Francisco d'Anconia says:
You'd be a not-so-great dane
Katie says:
oh thanks.. but id make a heck of a boston terrier..
Francisco d'Anconia says:
You just want me to take you to the park
Katie says:
i do.. i <3 the park lol
Francisco d'Anconia says:
Maybe we can check it out next weekend
Katie says:
maybe.. but ill be home for break then.. getting ready for christmas with the family
Katie says:
i really have to leave for my class now! will you be on later on in the evening??

Now I'm thinking about flaking on her, and taking her out when she is back to her regular schedule in college.

I'm going to fall in love with this girl...

Westfall

[Finesse]

Dont flake. You made your point with the "maybe we can go to the park thing"

Be on and talk to her

[Westfall]

Dont flake. You made your point with the "maybe we can go to the park thing"

Be on and talk to her

I probably wont be on tonight to talk to her, as to meeting her, that will be the first weekend she's home from college. Logistically it's bad. I think it might be better to just wait until January when she's back in school. ??

[Finesse]

No because now you can use the, "I'd like to see you, but only for like 30 minutes because I have to do (blah blah blah) and you have "family time"

Maybe a quick lunch or something.

But then during that you need to have other things in mind that you could do after lunch. If lunch goes well she will NOT want to go home, but instead spend more time with you so that 30 minutes that ya'll planned on turns into 2-3 hours, hopefully.

Keep the mindset of "it just happened".

"I totally didnt mean to stay out this long, you are such a bad influence on me."

[hooks]

Go for it man, there are a lot of negatives but better to try and find out then always wonder.

One problem I see is that always comes with this type of situation is that you tend to fill in the details with you don't know with positive attributes you would like in a girl which leads to feelings like these. This is the type of shit that fucks up your ability to judge things properly. Don't put the pussy on a pedestal.

I could be wrong but i think you should definately try to get some ass and forget about any of that stuff where you won't allow her to please you. You have already differentiated yourself from other dudes because you have a great rapport with her, I think if you hit the brakes or don't make a move you are going to send her bad signals that you are not confident or something isn't right.

[magnum]

do it wf. follow through and seize the diem.

[Thaddeus]

... I havent been forum watching lately due to class and me trying to get some of my own shit together but since I missed you guys today I thought I'd try and share some knowlege with ya.

Its real simple why she is still hooking up with the ex, see chode or not there is a basic instincutal fear in women of being alone. They need to have a protector/provider/lover filling a position in there lives. Remember that they are brought up though out most of there lives being told by there mothers, friends and the media that they want to be married one day or at the very least dont want to wind up the creepy old cat lady. All you have to do is basically fill this position for her for the time being, maybe even artificially fill it to take this roll in her life.

I say go for it and see if you have fun. thats what were all here for, or should be is to have a good time. Often times I've been into a girl meet her in person and the mystery faded away and I just lost what ever feelings I had for her. But sometimes it grows, bottom line is you wont loose any thing by trying and might gain something great. Hit me if ya need anything.

lata