A few changes, please read, please comment

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why not just add both to the monthly meets for a total of 3 a month? Meaning guys have 3 different meets they can choose from to become more active?

To stop being pussies and get out of the house and put this shit to use.

[Guest]

I support an official 18+ meetup, naturally. IMO the cabana events just aren't worth it for us if we're not even going to go out and sarge. I remember going to one and having to drive all the way back home while everyone else rolled out to the bars. Waste of gas.

The problem with night game 18+ venues like Purg is that they have cover even for the older guys, which might or might not be agreeable. An alternative is meeting up during the day and splitting up for day game, as long as we split up into small-enough groups. I know a lot of community guys generally don't do much day game especially when alcohol isn't involved so its a good chance to try something new as well.

[Guest]

Smirks, I think the reason that playercool said about getting rid of the ft worth meet up is that no one goes to em except maybe 3 people. I think we can still keep it but do it less often, maybe every other month like Smirks stated.

[Guest]

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The problem with night game 18+ venues like Purg is that they have cover even for the older guys, which might or might not be agreeable. An alternative is meeting up during the day and splitting up for day game, as long as we split up into small-enough groups. I know a lot of community guys generally don't do much day game especially when alcohol isn't involved so its a good chance to try something new as well.
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I think a day game event maybe once a month would be good, but there are also 18+ clubs on greenville and such I believe that shouldn't be as pricey as purgatory. Most clubs that are 18+ will have some sort of cover.

[Guest]

I have my boy on odd weekends, sorry guys but those weekends go to him. Give me a second or forth saturday or sunday and I'm there. BTW Mojo put the meetups on odd weekends to block me out after we had the falling out.

[Guest]

I'm down with the idea of moving more towards a lounge-exclusive based forum.

However, I think it would be a good idea to make the existence of the Lounge area well known in the general area somewhere (sticky in general discussion, etc) to fix the potential problem of new guys getting the idea that we aren't as active as we actually are..
There's your carrot-on-a-stick, and their hint that there's something more to be gained if they actually come out.



As for lounge member expiration: I think this is a good idea.

I suspect that would probably require the moderators to run through the list of members periodically anyway (as opposed to any kind of automation based on last-access, etc)...which would mean it wouldn't be a blindly strict rule; But more of a good/fair method of garbage collection based on the moderators' discretion.

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PUUUAs...

Its de-lurk time - I log on daily of course guys... too easy with multiple computers that are rarely rebooted, to just refresh the page - hopefully I haven't frightened anyone seeing my name over there on the sidebar, with the low post count and rare but insightful comments - but if I have - boo! Here I am!

And well, the 3-5 guys I like to wing with when Im in field more (ya'll know who you are) - some post here a bit, others not at all but they know where to find me

I check the site for new developments in the community locally and to help track local nightspot openings/closings, so the group sarge is a real rarity for me. I do lair events sometimes though, but usually my weekly break down is 1-2 nights with someone I wing with regularly, 1-2 solo, anything else is social circle building. Of course it doesn't mean I don't influence the local lair/PUA community (actually I run into many new guys and old guys in field regularly)

My complaint of things lately (this may or may not be the crux of recent developments) - like El Fenix (frequent voice of reason in threads lately) said above about the Austin and Miami lairs - lairs are difficult enough to run without any admission requirements

Those who say this might discourage new guys even more - maybe it should - looking back I too (like some other poster above) was crapping cinderblocks at the thought of meeting dudes from the internet to help me improve with women

Especially since I think with the popularity of the show, the vibe given off by some newer guys Ive met (not neccessarily from this board) is of "So you're one of those guys right? What can it do for me?" The frame being that "Ya'll are weird, that fucker wears eye shadow and goggles, Im doing you a favor by having a beer with you"

So something (a field report or two, annual dues, lame lame, I know) might be a good requirement for entry to the inner circle. Also for basic membership just deleting any accounts that haven't posted or attended an event within say 90 days of joining

I like # 5 on the list Vector (guys still rarely check resources like that, but mocking them a little might help - DAFS (Do A Fucking Search) is what the Attraction Forum mods say). Answering the same questions every 2 months got old back when I posted more. Seriously, ban the next dude who asks for day 2 advice on his 5th post to make an example out of him.

Mainly I think with the aim of making the group as inclusive as possible, the focus has deviated from actual pick up/relationship methods quite a bit to all manner of goofy squabling. Once again as mentioned above, make the barrier to entry to something too low - it is appreciated less

Ive said enough, back to the [i]blind[/i]

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Smirks, I think the reason that playercool said about getting rid of the ft worth meet up is that no one goes to em except maybe 3 people. I think we can still keep it but do it less often, maybe every other month like Smirks stated.
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This happened once, and I made it known well before that I would not be in attendance. Sorry, but I advertise, promote (in and out of the community) and basically annoy enough people to have a similar sized attendance for these FT Worth meetings. Again, you are letting your pre-existing negative feelings about this area affect what you post on this board. You had negative feelings toward this area before you moved in to my old room. Admit it, deal with it...as I will call you out on it every single time. There is just as much possibility for success as there is over in the Dallas area...you just have to accept it before you attempt.

Again, I'll reiterate...All Dallas people have a problem going to Ft Worth for a single even for one of two reasons

A) It's "too far" to drive
B) If I hook anything, I live so far away that I cant bounce and fuck

Well guess what?!?! That's what I deal with for 90% of the interactions I have with this community. Know what I do? I deal. The drive is far? Swap car-pooling duties. Cant fuck at your place? Most women are way more comfortable fucking at their place, you actully get better results (from my own experience) fucking them in their bed the 1st time. Be a soldier and try going to their place once in a while. Why should you get to be lazy 92043902834283048239% of the time and FT Worth kids always have to make the sacrifice? Such a stupid fucking argument. Seriously. The distance you drive from Dallas to Fort Worth is the same distance I drive from Fort Worth to Dallas. Welcome to common sense. Population: ME. I'm not just directing this at Just/Us...as there are many a veteran member who cry this out often. Don't make me turn this car around and start a Ft. Worth lair~!!

I'm crazy. I'll do it. And win. <3

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PUUUAs...

Its de-lurk time - I log on daily of course guys... too easy with multiple computers that are rarely rebooted, to just refresh the page - hopefully I haven't frightened anyone seeing my name over there on the sidebar, with the low post count and rare but insightful comments - but if I have - boo! Here I am!

And well, the 3-5 guys I like to wing with when Im in field more (ya'll know who you are) - some post here a bit, others not at all but they know where to find me

I check the site for new developments in the community locally and to help track local nightspot openings/closings, so the group sarge is a real rarity for me. I do lair events sometimes though, but usually my weekly break down is 1-2 nights with someone I wing with regularly, 1-2 solo, anything else is social circle building. Of course it doesn't mean I don't influence the local lair/PUA community (actually I run into many new guys and old guys in field regularly)

My complaint of things lately (this may or may not be the crux of recent developments) - like El Fenix (frequent voice of reason in threads lately) said above about the Austin and Miami lairs - lairs are difficult enough to run without any admission requirements

Those who say this might discourage new guys even more - maybe it should - looking back I too (like some other poster above) was crapping cinderblocks at the thought of meeting dudes from the internet to help me improve with women

Especially since I think with the popularity of the show, the vibe given off by some newer guys Ive met (not neccessarily from this board) is of "So you're one of those guys right? What can it do for me?" The frame being that "Ya'll are weird, that fucker wears eye shadow and goggles, Im doing you a favor by having a beer with you"

So something (a field report or two, annual dues, lame lame, I know) might be a good requirement for entry to the inner circle. Also for basic membership just deleting any accounts that haven't posted or attended an event within say 90 days of joining

I like # 5 on the list Vector (guys still rarely check resources like that, but mocking them a little might help - DAFS (Do A Fucking Search) is what the Attraction Forum mods say). Answering the same questions every 2 months got old back when I posted more. Seriously, ban the next dude who asks for day 2 advice on his 5th post to make an example out of him.

Mainly I think with the aim of making the group as inclusive as possible, the focus has deviated from actual pick up/relationship methods quite a bit to all manner of goofy squabling. Once again as mentioned above, make the barrier to entry to something too low - it is appreciated less

Ive said enough, back to the [i]blind[/i]
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First off, I have absolutely no idea who you are. You're getting a response to this because I have a couple gin and tonics in my system currently. I actually had to click on your name to see if you've even posted anything relevant before...and I'll be blunt...you really haven't (aside from this post.) I'm not sure what rare yet insightful comments you're referring to, but your post history doesn't have it.

I'd like to state that I think it's bad ass that you have 3-5 guys you LOVE to wing with...that's a rarity...but the fact that you evidently consider yourself to be a part of this lair...would indicate that you should have enough respect for this lair to actually make yourself known to 95% of the active members by showing up to a scheduled twice a month meeting (even if it's just for the meet-n-greet at the beginning.) Again, that's just my thinking. I wouldn't expect anyone here to care what I have to say if I wasn't active and/or known.

That being said, you basically agree to most of what is said here...so does that indicate a possible change in your behavior with the lair? Does that mean that, if put to the test, these guide lines would be enough to coerce you in to a meeting?

[Guest]

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[quote1236759069=Kraven]
PUUUAs...

Its de-lurk time - I log on daily of course guys... too easy with multiple computers that are rarely rebooted, to just refresh the page - hopefully I haven't frightened anyone seeing my name over there on the sidebar, with the low post count and rare but insightful comments - but if I have - boo! Here I am!

And well, the 3-5 guys I like to wing with when Im in field more (ya'll know who you are) - some post here a bit, others not at all but they know where to find me

I check the site for new developments in the community locally and to help track local nightspot openings/closings, so the group sarge is a real rarity for me. I do lair events sometimes though, but usually my weekly break down is 1-2 nights with someone I wing with regularly, 1-2 solo, anything else is social circle building. Of course it doesn't mean I don't influence the local lair/PUA community (actually I run into many new guys and old guys in field regularly)

My complaint of things lately (this may or may not be the crux of recent developments) - like El Fenix (frequent voice of reason in threads lately) said above about the Austin and Miami lairs - lairs are difficult enough to run without any admission requirements

Those who say this might discourage new guys even more - maybe it should - looking back I too (like some other poster above) was crapping cinderblocks at the thought of meeting dudes from the internet to help me improve with women

Especially since I think with the popularity of the show, the vibe given off by some newer guys Ive met (not neccessarily from this board) is of "So you're one of those guys right? What can it do for me?" The frame being that "Ya'll are weird, that fucker wears eye shadow and goggles, Im doing you a favor by having a beer with you"

So something (a field report or two, annual dues, lame lame, I know) might be a good requirement for entry to the inner circle. Also for basic membership just deleting any accounts that haven't posted or attended an event within say 90 days of joining

I like # 5 on the list Vector (guys still rarely check resources like that, but mocking them a little might help - DAFS (Do A Fucking Search) is what the Attraction Forum mods say). Answering the same questions every 2 months got old back when I posted more. Seriously, ban the next dude who asks for day 2 advice on his 5th post to make an example out of him.

Mainly I think with the aim of making the group as inclusive as possible, the focus has deviated from actual pick up/relationship methods quite a bit to all manner of goofy squabling. Once again as mentioned above, make the barrier to entry to something too low - it is appreciated less

Ive said enough, back to the [i]blind[/i]
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First off, I have absolutely no idea who you are. You're getting a response to this because I have a couple gin and tonics in my system currently. I actually had to click on your name to see if you've even posted anything relevant before...and I'll be blunt...you really haven't (aside from this post.) I'm not sure what rare yet insightful comments you're referring to, but your post history doesn't have it.

I'd like to state that I think it's bad ass that you have 3-5 guys you LOVE to wing with...that's a rarity...but the fact that you evidently consider yourself to be a part of this lair...would indicate that you should have enough respect for this lair to actually make yourself known to 95% of the active members by showing up to a scheduled twice a month meeting (even if it's just for the meet-n-greet at the beginning.) Again, that's just my thinking. I wouldn't expect anyone here to care what I have to say if I wasn't active and/or known.

That being said, you basically agree to most of what is said here...so does that indicate a possible change in your behavior with the lair? Does that mean that, if put to the test, these guide lines would be enough to coerce you in to a meeting?


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I know Kraven from my Dallas Meetup days. Kraven: have you ever used my bad ass, gay guy hits on me in the bathroom story? It's gotten me laid more than once ;)

Anyway, Kraven seems to be a guy with some good knowledge that's been doing his own thing lately. Obviously, Kraven, we're thinking about putting these action items in place for two reasons: 1) to high grade our stable of PUAs, barriers, however small weed out the weak 2) to encourage guys, like yourself, that would provide value to our community to become more active.