6th in Austin

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I think there are 2 schools of thought here.

In one corner you have Bull Run, who can accurately be described as a person in which can more readily identify with society and the ideals it usually encompasses.

In the other corner you have Afterlife. A person who doesn't follow a standard path, and doesn't really care for "norms".

Just as not many people can validate my pulls, I cannot validate Bull Run's or Afterlife's. Bull Run, you once told me that some of the best PUA's pull best when they are flying solo, and I couldn't agree more.

Afterlife to me, has the qualities that any good PUA would have. The only difference is his school of thought. I myself have a hard time with societal "norms" which is why alot of times my opinions, or my "whines" often fall on def ears, or most importantly are portrayed exactly as that, me whining.

Afterlife makes no claim that he wishes the world to be different, unlike me. But like me he also blazes his own trail. Sometimes people come along.

Bull Run, unlike me, you are very successful in societal norms. People gravitate to you like none I've seen in the community in some time. Like me you have a deeper understanding about what all societal norms entails, and like you once said, a lot of the times you speak to extremes.

It's easy to come to a boiling point as "It's my way or the highway" but it's a dangerous line to toe when saying that a person should conform.

I have not followed up with Afterlife for almost a year, but last time I hung out with him he literally owned the venue he was in, and I saw people, for lack of a better way to say it, virtually begging him to spend time with them (when he wasn't even dressed ridiculous). Men and Women alike, therefore I have no doubt that his "escapades" are real.

The problem, I feel, lies in the fact that what Afterlife does, and considers normal, is not what society does, nor is considered normal and thus many, have problems with his stories.

Granted I feel he could have gone into detail in his reports, and that some of his definitions may be a little too tailored to himself for my tastes, I do feel Afterlife is one of the rare talented individuals of this lair.

Like I said, I feel there are two different thought patterns here, where being a PUA entails becoming more of a part of the society we are in and becoming a more "productive part of society", and the other which is basically doing your own thing, be damned, and not really conforming to any given rational.

There is nothing inherently wrong with either, but they are on totally different sides of the spectrum.

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Bull Run is right about the "weaker puas" flocking to afterlife or whatever he said along those lines, but I am by no means an afterlife "follower", I was just stating my experience sarging with him.

I will agree with you guys in this way: this field report kinda sucks in that it has no details. Kinda seems like you're just bragging afterlife, and that's not cool man.

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I have many, many problems with the whole thing. First off, as UL said...the post is pointless. Offers nothing to anyone, is an attempt at a pissing contest, and reading a stack of sentence fragments just out right irks me. A field report should be a recanting of the night's events whether they be good or bad in a manner in which your fellow community members can offer advice/critique or learn from.

Then there is the point of what you were actually doing. I want you to answer a question (either of you.) Do you want to be a man, or a spectacle? What you were doing did not get you any women. It just got you attention. I can juggle flaming cow turds and get attention. Secondly, are you homosexual? If not, then why parade about town as if you were? Do you think you'd get a women in bed that way? Do you think you can start a relationship that was initiated on the basis of you being homosexual? I highly doubt it. What I see/saw/read is that you have flamboyant tactics for obtaining someone's attention and playing "dancing monkey" in front of their face for as long as possible. The "dancing monkey" habit was the hardest one for me to break...so I know it when I see it. If nothing about what you are doing is genuine, then doesn't that make you the opposite? Yeah, that's precisely what women want...

SP...you were on the right track in the beginning. It seems you dropped all of that and went for the "HEY LOOK AT ME" approach to life. In my opinion, put away the purple mesh shirt and go put on your Jesus shirt...that wasn't near as bad.

Replace "pulled" in this post with "wasn't ignored by" and it will read a tad more along the lines of what really went on.

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I have to agree with Finesse here. It's not my way, and if I tried I probably couldn't pull it off anyway. But I'm not going to judge as to what methods are good or bad because as I've always said there's different ways for different people.

But at the same time the initial post was not at all helpful and seemed intent on bragging more than anything. Which I think is the primary reason it got such a negative response.