girl negged me

[rxhevn88]

so i was standing there Hb8 was across from me with some guys but we kept making eye contact then she played with her hair so i decided its go time. Just so happens that a very fat guy trys to squeeze by which forces me to stand right next to her. Well the guy had a popped collar and so my opener was

Pua:doesnt that guy look like a douche bag
hb: who?
Pua that guy with the popped collar
Hb:no he looks like hes dirty an smelly
Pua: hahahaha

Then she turned around and shut me out......i should have said O w/e and turned from her first ...but for some reason i laughed and let her have the upper hand and shut me out

[ninjamatt]

I may not have used the term "douche bag". A woman could take a offense to that term coming from a guy she's never met. Plus I don't generally think it's healthy to totally rip another persons appearance who I don't know to a person I don't know especially when the rippie is real overweight already. She may feel sorry for the guy. Probably a more high percentage way to play that situation , what I do, would be something like say "that guy almost pushed me in to" Then based on her reaction you have some options . If she doesn't say anything back but just kind of looks at you hopefully you can look away and say something like "I didn't mean to get THAT close to you" you can say it with an expression that leaves her wondering, does he think I'm ugly now that he sees me close. Or your expression could be one that the message portrays a little more innocent joke type statement. When you can make girls wonder what you are thinking about them you have an advantage.

Ideally, after you say "that guy almost pushed me in to you" she would say "thats ok" then you could ask "what's your opinion of the way he styles his collar?". Then hopefully youve got a conversation going. Another thing that can help get a womans attention versus average guys is if you can structure your first few sentences a little proper. I.E. the way I have that question posed is more catchey than "what do you think about his collar" b/c it makes you look a little smarter.


I'm not saying what you did won't be effective 50% of the time, but it's a little more high risk ,minimal reward tactic in my opinion.

[ninjamatt]

I'm trying to imagine this situation. Maybe he didn't almost push you in to her and it would not make sense to open that way. You could still go straight to the "What do you think of the way he styles his collar" . I always like situational openers b/c they are original and innocent, and you can come across leaving them wondering if you are interested in them or not. But generally women don't respond well to a person they don't know cutting down another person for a pick up line. In that case if you don't comment on the douchness or obesity, but acknowledge the uniquness of the collar, I think it's a high percentage type of opener that will work alot.

[rxhevn88]

Ok I'll try that next time thanks for the input guys
I knew I royally screwed up but could not
Pin it to the exact point