Sex creates feelings for girls! FU*K!

[Alphagame]

Ok, so you've got all these "extra" girls in your life right now and we've ALL been through dry spells where we can't get the time of day from women.

But seriously, two girlfriends is all a guy can have time for. Three girls is too much. Think about it. If you see each girl 2 nights per week, there's no time for you. There's no time for sarging. There's no time for anything.

As a sort of insurance plan, when you decide you don't want to see a girl any more, this is what you do.

You put her on the back burner such that if and when you decide you want to fuck her again, you can. Because we all know there's likely to come a time again, at some point in the future, where we're in a rut and can't get laid.

How?

Set a date with her. One hour beforehand, call her up. Make sure you have this torn, emotional tone to your voice. Like you're on the verge of crying or something. "Hey, just wanted to call an say I can't make it tonight. One of my other girlfriends and I are gonna try being exclusive for a while and see how things work out. I'm sorry to do this to you, but this just happened today."

If you deliver it just right, you'll hear that tone in her voice that sounds of rejection and sorrow. Then, you call her right back a minute later. This time, you'll be screened to voice mail because she's crying and she doesn't want you to know it. This time, leave a voice mail and say "Hey, I just want you to know I think you're great. Seriously, you are an awesome girl. The only thing that didn't work out here was timing. Had I met you earlier, who knows what would have happened. Anyway, I just don't want you to feel bad about this. I really do think you are great."

At this point, you've got her feeling rejected. And that's a good thing because they only want what they can't have. And you've rejected her without being a dick. She realizes you're honest (even though you aren't).

I've done this successfully in the past one time, but there was no lying. After my exclusive relationship ended, I called her back 90 days later, fucked her once, went out with her again and lost interest. Oh well. It worked.

[zine]

I'm going to pull out my signature here.

There are 2 ways to become a successful pua:

1. become an amazing manipulator
2. become an amazing man

I seriously doubt that deep down any of you want to become an amazing manipulator, so let's think how would an amazing man handle this situation.

I'm sure he would be honest. An amazing man has no reason to lie because his intentions are based in his system of strong inner beliefs and having others know his intentions clearly can only help him. As for all the manipulative approaches, why?
I have had plenty of needy girls, but one thing I know for certain is that everyone of them knew for certain what I wanted and where we stood. Do I have to reiterate it constantly?, yes. Are they still needy and clingy?, yes as others have said this is natural, but does all of this effect me?, No because I have stated my intentions clearly and honestly. I have told them that even though both of us may become totally infatuated right now if it becomes neccessary to leave each other in order to grow further that I will be sad. I love all my girls, but it is what's best for both of us. Emotions fade, memories fade, but a person who impacted your life and helped you grow as a person will be remembered forever.

Leave them better than you found them,
Zine

[Vector]

Here's another thing that shoots me in the foot. I assume she thinks we're in a relationship, even though we've never talked about it. Because this seems to be her frame, I start to feel guilty about gf/bf type stuff. Not spending time with her, not calling her back, her possibly being jealous of another girl (hasn't really happened yet). She knows I hang out with other girls, but I'm discreet sort of person, and I don't tell anyone who I'm fucking or not. This is going to make it look as though I've been lying to her all this time, if she does think we're actually in a relationship. Imagine I go out somewhere with some other girl and her friends see me making out with another woman. This looks really bad. Saying I didn't know we were exclusive seems like a pretty pitiful excuse.

Sometimes you have to bring it up. I've been in this situation before, and I thought as long as she didn't ask, I was in the clear. But as you said, I sorta knew that assumptions were being made on her part. Even though I had a watertight argument, she was still pissed and felt I had done wrong, and we stopped being friends.

So now, I bring it up when I think wrong assumptions might be made. The girl will always be unhappy to hear it, but the girl will almost always still have sex. Even the ones who say "I'm not like that" will still do it. And they'll have respect for you for bringing it up when it's so much easier to stay silent.

No need for lines. Just have the strength to be honest about your intentions. It's better for her and better for you.

[El Fenix]

I'm going to pull out my signature here.

There are 2 ways to become a successful pua:

1. become an amazing manipulator
2. become an amazing man

I seriously doubt that deep down any of you want to become an amazing manipulator, so let's think how would an amazing man handle this situation.

I'm sure he would be honest. An amazing man has no reason to lie because his intentions are based in his system of strong inner beliefs and having others know his intentions clearly can only help him. As for all the manipulative approaches, why?
I have had plenty of needy girls, but one thing I know for certain is that everyone of them knew for certain what I wanted and where we stood. Do I have to reiterate it constantly?, yes. Are they still needy and clingy?, yes as others have said this is natural, but does all of this effect me?, No because I have stated my intentions clearly and honestly. I have told them that even though both of us may become totally infatuated right now if it becomes neccessary to leave each other in order to grow further that I will be sad. I love all my girls, but it is what's best for both of us. Emotions fade, memories fade, but a person who impacted your life and helped you grow as a person will be remembered forever.

Leave them better than you found them,
Zine

Agreed. 100%
I got into this game to attract the type of women I wanted but oculdnt have, and become a better man as part of the process.
I previously thought that I'd have to become something I'm totally not, be sleazy, or lie to women to get there.
I've found out so far, that none of the above have been necessary, especially lying. I hate lying.
I dont have to, and dont lie to women about my intentions. Now, theres being tactful, and timing and phrasing things right. That's wisdom. But outright lying, and being decietful, I will NOT do that. EVER.
I want what I want. I enjoy women's company, and I enjoy making them feel good. But I'm not ready for a steady long term, relationship right now. Those are the guidelines, and everyone knows where they stand. No one gets hurt.


Stay Classy Dallas PUA. Fenix Out

[Smile]

Vetor Wrote:

"You don't have to be a jerk to get rid of girls. (Or to get them for that matter.) And you don't have to get rid of them to avoid getting into a relationship. Be up front with them and honest as to where you're coming from and what you're looking for. They can dislike what you want, but they won't generally dislike you unless you are dishonest or not open enough."

Vector is right. Be honest and upfront with girls. They may not like what you do 100% of the time but they will respect you for being honest and upfront. I say that in the field a lot of times when the "so what are you looking for" and "are you a player" question comes up. Also, like AdamAFCLondon said, I make sure my intent is stated before anything sexual happens, whether the intent is to be dating or casual. Some girls may not like it and some will like it but you are being honest and they will respect that.