smokers

[flash07]

i dont know how many PUA's smoke but i was kinda curious by smoke i mean 420 smoke although cigarettes i guess would be the same idea. how does it affect gaming for you?



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[Twitchy]

I have never smoked - either cigarettes or 420. Nor done any other drug. Its not worth it.

[zine]

if you are going to smoke, smoke hookah. You can even have hookah parties at your place. It's pretty normal for people that don't even smoke to smoke it.
As far as whether it affects your game. The general rule is that nonsmokers don't like smokers. You may want to look for girls that do smoke, so this won't be a problem.

[Bull Run]

Interesting thing about smokers is that studies have shown them to be more promiscuous than non-smokers. Can't remember where I read this, maybe the Tipping Point? HBs that smoke = whores. I've found this to be true as well.

Anyway, I'll smoke (just about anything). Don't advertise it though. Wait for them to bring it up. If a woman is a smoker and she asks you if it's Ok if she smokes that's a huge IOI. When she asks, you can confess that you smoke as well. But, if you're openly smoking you're disqualifying yourself to a lot of sets. Some people have huge issues with smokers, don't blow yourself out before you even approach.

BTW, hookah's rock. I regularly use my hookah as an excuse to get a chick back to my place, even non-smokers will smoke a hookah.

[PicturePerfect]

My thoughts on both smokin it up and cigs.

Cigs:
I recently quit well kinda. I use it more as a social advantage when I'm out and about. Never the less its best to be neutral on it. Don't be an ass if she smokes but yet to be a chimney its not healthy no really a women of high status whom doesnt smoke does not find it attractive at all. You can rest a sure any man who's been with enough high status women knows 9 out of 10 SHB (or HB 8's at that) will not like it or be attracted to it. So do your self a favor. Quit

Pro's on it out weight the cons

420:

I myself think its kinda well..... immature to do it after highschool on a daily basis. Now dont get me wrong I've cheifed the rodrigez plenty of times after highschool and probably delt it to. I'll never confirm no deny that in writing, but. Lets face it if she wants to toke it up every damn day thats just annoying to me, and if anyone know anything about pot heads up less any of you are from the westcoast. I just moved here from Seattle a little over a month ago. That place is tree huggin, all natural smoken central.

I'm not saying don't hang with these people because you know what. Just I am a firm believer on seeking the next level in my own personal evolution. drugs (ES NO BEUNO)

my 2 cents k... steppin off my post..


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[Rhody]

If you're gaming a girl who smokes, she will give you a whole bunch of body language queues to help you.

If she starts playing with her cigarette pack or lighter, then she's bored.
If she takes short puffs, then she's a social smoker and it might be an IOI that she is seeking the oral fix while talking to you.
If she takes long drags, then she's a hardcore smoker and is just trying to get back to normal. It has nothing to do with you.
If she holds her cigarette up to expose her wrist to you, then that is an IOI.
If she holds her cigarette inside her hand, sort of hiding it, then she has a secret. Maybe she has a boyfriend she's not telling you about.
If she blows her smoke down, that's negative.
If she blows her smoke up, that's positive, an IOI.
If she holds eye contact while blowing her smoke up, then it's ON!
If she blows her smoke in your face, in most cultures, she's being rude and wants you to go away. However, in some cultures it might mean she wants to fuck you, although in those cultures women would not be the ones making such a bold display. So in most cases it means she wants you to leave.

[PicturePerfect]

Rhody 10+

[skin]

i can attest to a few things, both on a knowledge and experience basis.

what bull run said about HB that smoke = whore. ive read the studies on this as well, and also know from experience that girls that smoke are much more sexually devient. whether it is an addictive personality, a carpe diem attitude or what, if they smoke the poke.... alot.

as for smokin buds, chicks that smoke weed now and then can be fun, but if shes a stoner dont waste your time. she is probably a parasitic loser who will just try and make you as lazy and worthless as she is.

everything in moderation...

this goes for cigs as well. i myself dont consider myself a smoker anymore because after trying to quit for about 5 yrs and working out/running a shitload i am in great shape and am no longer so addicted.

what picture perfect said goes without saying, MOST females are more and more turned off by smokers. always make sure you diagnose the crowd you are gaming before lighting up if you got to.

***an old trick that does work alot though, even just for meeting people or starting convo is to always keep a lighter on you when you are out. even during the day. one of those little things that can suprise you how effective it can be. i have been asked multiple times by random females that were just trying to talk to me for a light and its always better to be prepared.

-sKins-

[Elation]

Obviously no serious Potheads on this board.

I don't smoke, anymore... or I mean ever... IDK

But I will say look at it logically:

If a person were to smoke before going out than he would probably be a bit more lazy and not put as much effort into approaching. However on the flip side, doesn't it make sense that his inhibitions would be down and he would have a more carefree attitude? Maybe rejection wouldn't hurt as bad. Pot affects everyone differently so it seems to me that it would be a case by case situation.

As far as staying away from girls that smoke, I happen to know that one of the hottest gatekeepers at a high end club in Dallas is a smoker. In fact I have been invited back to after hours parties where the purpose was to go toke. Now, being that I don't do that anymore, I missed out on an extremely beneficial situation I could have put myself in.

Also, if you are a toker and you meet a girl who is, EVERYONE wants to smoke with EVERYONE. "Hey, we've got some badass DANK! Let's bounce out of here and go hit that shit, you down?" UM DUH easiest isolation/ bounce tactic/ day2/ excuse to get her over to your house/ incentive to hang out, etc etc, possible!

And PLEASE, if your not enough of a risk taker to have tried drugs in your life then we will all respect you for making such a wise decision, and also all respect you to keep you unfounded, unknowledgable opinions about the drug culture to yourself. I don't prance around telling people how easy it is to be the president of the U.S. and how everyone should try it once in their life BECAUSE I have never been the president and therefore have no personal experience in sharing what it is like or what it means to be the president.

Anyone who's ever experianced the underworld of drug culture can easily share how uninformed and naive the general public is on how it actually all works. And I would also like to point out to anyone who doesn't already see this in action: being a rockstar entails the sex and drugs lifestyle. As such, if any of you ever make it to the elite, inner circle of rich, Dallas high society and party goers than you will obviously see how intricate drugs are in the deeper levels of partiers. There is in fact a gang of white muscle heads who all do steroids and travel around night clubs picking up and fucking many chicks. But I will say no more

Interesting thoughts

[Atlas]

Put it this way...if you don't let on that you smoke you can't lose. If you find out that shes a smoker by all means whip out a lighter and smoke one with her. But if the topic never even comes up than don't bring it up.