Almer and Aminidab

[dubya]

These are the highlights of the Saturday before last. I left some crap out because it wasn't important.

I got off work about 9:00 went home changed and went to the club. I went to Pheonix Underground in Shreveport. It was too early. Only a few people were there so I got my hand stamped and left. I went to another club down the street. There was a bartender there who was drawing little circles on a napkin. I said the first thing that came to my mind.

Wow, thats rememnicent of early Dahdahism.
It really wasn't but who cares... I was amazed she actually knew what I meant and she started telling me about some artist I'd never heard of. The music was loud and I only heard half of what she was saying. I couldn't think of anything else really to say to her so I left.

Returned to Pheonix. More people. I walked around like a schumk for a couple minutes. I know when I walk into a place I need to just start talking to the first person I see but I haven't internalized this yet. Eventually I approach a girl at the bar with the "Nice tattoo," line. She then starts to tell me how she has 18 of them. We walk away from each other and I approach a two set at a nearby table.

I asked if I could get their opinion on something. One of the girls says yes. I paused. It was obvious I was thinking. It took a minute for a thought to actually enter my brain and the very first word in my mind was "spells." So I started in on a variation of the Spells routine. She said it was an interesting story and I ejected. I probably should have sooner. I knew it was a fucked up approach but I kept talking anyway.

I saw tattoo girl standing alone against the wall with her cell phone out. I held mine toward her and told her that I'd trade her. I've been doing that a lot lately because it seems like girls are always on their phone or txting when I see them. She laughed, which is the responce I always get from that. I ask her why she is standing there alone. We talk for a few minutes. I eject and walk towards the back of the bar.

There are three pool tables in the back with a row of chairs against the wall. I sit down in a random chair. I'm not thinking about anything. I'm was tired and I was going to leave soon as I finished my beer. Peripherally I noticed a guy playing pool with two girls to my right. I'm not paying them any attention though. I'm thinking about leaving.

The blond in the group walks over and sits down next to me.

Her: "Do you mind if I sit here?"
Me: "No, go ahead."
Her: "I haven't been this dunk in a looong time."
Me: "Really?"
Her: "Can I tell you something?"
Me: "Whats that?"
Her: "My boyfriend doesn't think I'm sexy."

WTF? I looked at her. I didn't beleive her. But it sounded like she believed it. She started talking to the other girl. Something about her zipper. Then got up and the two of them walked away togerther. The guy sat down next to me. We both said "whats up."

Then he said, "yeah, she called her boyfriend this morning and a girl answered the phone. When she heard her voice the girl hung uo. Then her boyfriend disconcted the phone. Thats to help you. I'm just telling you this to help you out."

How nice of him...
A minute later I see BlondGirl crying on the other girls shoulder. Then she is crying on the guys shoulder. Then the two girls walk away again. I was really thinking now that I should leave. I didn't want to be part of the drama. No matter how good looking she was fucking her would only lead to drama. Yet at the same time.... I wanted to. I also wanted to beat the crap out of her boyfriend. I've been trying to figure out why. It's probably just some deep phylisophical shit.

I didn't leave though. The guy asked me if I wanted to play pool. I'm not any good at the game but fuck it, why not. So we play. half way through the game the girls return. Without a word BlondGirl walks up to me smiling, tunrs, bends over and starts to grind her ass against my crotch.

Thank you Jesus...
Even if she was just showing off for her friend and validating herself, it obviously still felt good.

Then she goes over and leans against the wall. She drops her camera. I pick it up to be nice. I hear her telling me to put it in her purse. I make her say please before I do.

I wanted to kiss her. I knew that I could. But I couldn't get past the situation. The two girls went to the dance floor. The guy was said he was leaving. I asked hem how he knew them and he said something about the dark haired girl being his "bitch." Okay... He was leaving.

I had a choice here. I could follow to the dance floor and see what happened or I could leave. Nature made the choice for me. I had to pee, so I went to the men's room. When I came out I didn't see either of the girls. I wasn't sure if I was disapointed or elated.

Thing is I don't want to be the "drunken revenge hookup" guy. I want to be the guy girls want when they're not drunk and upset because they chose idiots for boyfriends.

[Welsh_Dragon]

Hey man interesting night you had there in Sherveport. I travel all over America to sarge but i've never been to this place aside from moving my buddy across country and we did drive through there. It looked like all Casinos. I want to go there. Are there bars and clubs and hot women? I am very un-versed in the smaller (redneck?) America towns.

It sounds like you had a solid time. And a LOT of options. Here are my thoughts on your FR:

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You went out alone. Great start.

Set 1 (Dahdahism girl)

What the fuck is Dahdahism first of all? Typical warm up set. Good to get out of the way. Maybe you see her later on for some social proof or sarge her then. Other option is venue change.

Set 2 (Spells)

Not enough info to go on. Did they give you positive BL? Your opener was OK and you hesitated (this is actually DHV). What happened? I am not one for opinion openers except DHV ones (e.g. "Why are all American girls so vain?" I just made that up BTW).

You don't mention the logistics of this place but this set may have been DHV social prood for you with the later chicks. They see all...

Set 3 (Tattoo girl)

Decent enough open with good social proof (entering the 2 set). She qualified with the 18 tattoos thing. And you broke rapport with the eject. Phone comments are always great. My fav is "how do girls always text so fast?" that usually gets a smile (answer is predictive text). I used to do this in the old days (i open with any old shit now). This was a good set. Did you #close? You are already on the phone thing. Why did you eject?

Set 4 (Drunk pool girl + bitch)

You were opened (see how the positive energy builds?). There is no drama here FOR YOU. You do not need to be sucked into any drama. This tells me your frame is not strong enough if you are worried about this. I think you missed out big time with this one. She probably went back and fucked her BF.

You needed to get into comfort and rapport with her after she opened you. This would be very easy as she is practically begging for it. Subtly slate the BF (I use the European vs American thing for this quite well. We are so romantic and sophisticated you know?). You had attraction already obviously with her opening you. Then break rapport (open the guy for a game of pool which you did anyway. Alpha and have him friend and/or "business card" close you (LOL) for social group proof. Also get the other chick onside (should be fairly easy. plus you can sarge her if you want as she is not Alpha girl (i assume)). Then isolate HB or HB2.

Thing is I don't want to be the "drunken revenge hookup" guy. I want to be the guy girls want when they're not drunk and upset because they chose idiots for boyfriends.

This is ricidulous. Why do you have such a low opinion of yourself? This girl could only want you when she met you. Be definition that is random and it happened when it happened. Disqualifying yourself because of circumstance is extremely self defeating.

Great night though. Keep doing this again and again and again and again until you see patterns. Success comes mostly with hard work like in any discipline. And a little bit of talent of course. Thats what I keep telling myself anyway lol

[Kraven]

Sup Dubya

Here's some random granular stuff:

- Noticed your FR partly because I use a variation of "spells" also (just substitute the word "voodoo" and make the chick from New Orleans)

-If you are new, use your false time constraint (I'm waiting to meet my buddies next door, etc) just use 2-3 openers, dozens of times so you have them down and know how people usually react to them, have a backstory ready for them and go into another opener/routine before you finish the story

-Any of the places you were at, you can tell the sets you open where you're headed to later to meet your friends, # close them, and eject to your next venue

-For the last blonde I'd have just # closed/time bridge and hook up with her in the future (not sure from reading if her BF was present, if not you could possibly escalate & bounce). The game is all about drama, if its not already present we create a little (but as PUAs we're in total control because we've created and seen its outcomes in the past). Even # close guy the two HBs were with (he knows others) and text him the next time you hit the bars solo - he and the asshole boyfriend are the local naturals

-Kino tattoo chick after you start talking about them, compliment her/them and then IOD her

-For loud music dadaist napkin bartender, you could continue with more visual stuff (draw on napkins yourself) and physical stuff like kino-ing or gesturing. Also, you had attract so at that point shes ready for qualification "So you're an artist? Why do you like that artist that you are into - draw me a little picture of your favorite piece by him"

-If you like to solo sarge like this - try to stay in sets after you open, get sets you open to follow you to other bars (or hook and follow them), introduce them to new sets you open and get to know the staff if you frequent these places. This is the way to build social proof and build a generally social vibe around yourself

I had a choice here. I could follow to the dance floor and see what happened or I could leave

Not quite - like the guy with the two HBs suggested, you were very much in control at this point. You deserve the reality you want

Definitely should've have bantered and toyed with the blonde a bit, a better response might be like "If you get drunk enough I might put pictures of you on my website"

Great FR. Learning how to cold approach PU kicks ass and you will soon see the framework continuing this way

[dubya]

Welsh_Dragon

This is ricidulous. Why do you have such a low opinion of yourself? This girl could only want you when she met you. Be definition that is random and it happened when it happened. Disqualifying yourself because of circumstance is extremely self defeating.

Kraven

Not quite - like the guy with the two HBs suggested, you were very much in control at this point. You deserve the reality you want

Fuck it. You guys are right.

Dragon- If I remember straight Dhadha was an artist who would sign toilet seats and put them in muesems labeled as "found art."
And yeah, I didn't realize until lately how much of a small redneck town this place is. There are a lot of casinos. They really aren't worth anything though. There are a lot of sports bars here. The clubs I was in that night were downtown though. They're open later and usually have a more high-energy crowd.

Kraven- Do you believe in ESP? No....seriously you've been reading my mind. My variation on the spells routin is exactly that. I had the idea after Katrina whiped out New Orleans. I talk about the girl being a refugee whose mother was a voodoo preistest, and so was her mother and so on for generations back. I have even thought about adding that I went into her apartment with her one day and found a shrine with my "friend's" picture in the middle of a pentagram.

Also...

Definitely should've have bantered and toyed with the blonde a bit, a better response might be like "If you get drunk enough I might put pictures of you on my website"

Funny you should mention a website. I've been thinking about doing a little shameless self promotion.