Post opener material/fluffing...?

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Post opener material/fluffing...?

Postby Smile » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:02 pm

Guys, I am doing well on some nights continuing on after an opener and other nights I get stuck after the opener (usually the girls that crab up). I was wondering if I could get some advice from others about what they say (routines, stack more openers, gambits, fluffing, etc.) after an opener to keep the convo going. Once the gambit stage is reached (right after the post opener stage) them I am usually ok as of now but right after the opener I sometimes blank out.

This sucks because I could say a million AFC things but it is hard to fluff PUA type conversations without material or when the convo takes a turn and the material needs to switch (or does not fit). Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks,


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Postby Finesse » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:28 pm

I like this opener.

"Hi!"

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Postby zine » Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:23 am

Say something, anything will do. Just make her earn your interest not the other way around. The other night I opened
Me: Hey guys
Them: hi
Me: What's your names?
Them: *testy* I'm Felicia (I glance at her hand here, so she sticks it out kino initiated :p) other girl: I'm other girl
Me: Alright now that we are on a first name basis, I like cheesecake..
Them: ???
Me: It has that amazing grahm cracker crust and that melt in your mouth flavor, what do you like?
Them: cheesecake!
Me: Omg you can't just jack mine like that wth! :p Eh I will never get along with you guys anyways unless the toppings on your cheesecake are delicious too, what you top it with?
Them: Chocolate
Me: I don't really like chocolate as much, but you know what?
Them: ?
Me: When I put strawberries on mine it feels the same as that chocolate melting in your mouth, before you even put it in your mouth you can smell it and its so alluring you just have to put it in your mouth, and when you finally do it has that sudden burst of initial flavor its amazing.
Them: mhmmmmm
Me: What other things give you that enjoyment? (vacuum after question)

I like to just pick random things I like and talk about them. It brings positive energy to the interaction, shows something fun and interesting about me, shows that I'm not like other guys showing interest right away, and gives me a chance to find a reason to show genuine interest in them.
Pick your favorite animal, place, person, thing, and talk about it. Relate on an emotional level. Notice all the feeling words I used up there. Disagree and relate emotionally. It creates a much stronger connection than agreeing will.
Oh and I swear if you use this cheesecake thing as a routine I will be very dissapointed in you. Pick something you like, and that you can relate to.
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Postby Smile » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:41 am

Don't worry, I won't use the cheesecake routine. I guess I just need to open with more open-ended/follow up openers that can be taken anywhere and not just a simple opinion opener that can lead to a direct yes and no. Although, sometimes I use a broad opinion opener and all I get is a direct yes or no and the girls crab up (in that case I try 20% more and then leave. They prob. would be no fun anyway). I have a few of my own and I will come up with others. Thanks.
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Postby Westfall » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:49 pm

Everytime I read an opener crazy opener ideas pop into my head.

WF: Question...are you the type of girl that could be talked into having an abortion?

HB: No

WF: It'll never work out between us (back turn).


........
Yes, Im going to try that one.
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Postby zine » Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:56 am

Everytime I read an opener crazy opener ideas pop into my head.

WF: Question...are you the type of girl that could be talked into having an abortion?

HB: No

WF: It'll never work out between us (back turn).


........
Yes, Im going to try that one.


lol west you aren't afraid to stand out, I respect that.
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