Non Pua friends killing my game!

[MetroR6]

Lately I have found that many of my old friends and friends that are not in the community are having a negative effect on my self improvement. I find my self looking to open sets and do approaches but find it very difficult, like draging around a human anchor. Both men and women with whom I my find myself both have this affect. One female friend whom I had hoped would at the very least provide social proof and preselection, seemes to only hinder my progress! ie" I like this bar lets stay here. That other place sounds dumb. blaa blaa" Well, FF thats were my Pua wings are at and your certainly not helping things sweetheart!!! -I thought to myself.
Just last weekend this happened and I was kicking my self for being out with her. I have come to the conclusion that from now on, my weekends are only to be spent with my friends in the community. Am I alone in this problem or has this come up with any one else out there? Thanks -MetroR6

[LavianOrlandu]

I have the same problem too where my roommates who I hang out with will try to doubt me or second-guess me when I see a set that I want to open. I find that it's simply easier not to discuss opening the set with them because they're just going to be negative about it ("Are you kidding me Lavain? Those girls are hot! Why would they want to talk to us? I don't think it's going to work. Let's just sit here and be AFC."). I just walk over there and I do it. And then, I can use my roommates as social proof/time limit.

Your female friend, I think can be dealt with the same way. You can say things like, "Well *I* think this place is lame. I'm going to the other joint, you can stay here if you want." Hopefully she'll follow along. I'm all for hanging out with your AFC friends because that's where you get some great stories for later.

[MagicBalls]

According to the The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed, you're supposed to start hitting the sets the moment you walk in. Go from set to set, until everyone in the bar thinks you know everyone else in the bar. The longer you sit sulking over your drink at a bar, the more your value will drop. Essentially, you're doing more harm than good.

I personally prefer to be with non-PUA's for the most part, unless it's a small group. I find that styles vary too much from person to person to have a coherent social circle. And sometimes, I'm more about being social than picking up girls, especially if it's a place I like enough to frequent.

I have some very beautiful female friends, and I don't have to take them to a set for girls to notice. They might not be obvious about it, but girls in the club or bar noticed who you were with when you walked in the door and when you sat down. It's always best that there's at least three of you, that way you don't leave a friend sitting alone for too long.

If you've managed to game an adjacent set, try joining that set and you're friend's set. See how that works. Relax and have a sense of humor about it too, like if you just mischievously mixed one chemical with another one to see what would happen. Otherwise you'll be cringing your teeth and that emotional tension will devalue you.

[Ares]

About a week ago, I stopped into Sherlock’s to have a *drink* with two friends of mine (neither know about the game. I sat my two friends down at a table while I went to get the first round.

Side note:
I ordered their drinks and got myself a diet coke. However I had the bartender put it in the same type of class a rum and coke comes in. I say, *I am the DD but I can still look cool right!*, he actually thought it was a cool idea and even put two straws in mine so I would know which one was mine. I never drink in the field! And I suggest to anyone in the game, do the same and it will double your effectiveness. While all the other guys drift into drunken AFCs, you will still be sharp and no one will be the wiser.

Anyways, I get back to the table and see my target, pawn my friends and enter a two set. Been banging my target ever since. There is no reason to let your non-PUA friends get in the way. You can read the FR under *Don't Push the F-Close*.

If your friends are hindering your sarge, just bring one solid wingman. Not everyone in your group has to be a PUA.

-Ares

[hawkeye]

Don't forget that this whole venusian arts thing is there to enhance your life, not replace it. If your friends are holding you back, then broadening your social circle is an excellent idea for your personal growth.

But, if they are your true friends, they're not worth ditching for anything. I'm going through a similar situation, and I'm trying to balance my old school friends with my new PUA friends, but would never outright stop hangin' with them. I think about introducing them to the community, but not sure how they would respond.

For the most part, I've been trying to have the best time I can with whoever I'm around. "The game is played in comfort."

[MetroR6]

Thanks for all the good advice. I have, in fact cut way back on my drinking now that ive joined the community. No girl likes a drunk asshole hitting on her. Besides im not really their to drink anymore. If you see a guy walking around the bar/club with a can of RedBull, in all likelihood its me.
As for the old friends problem. Now that im making real changes to better my whole life including my social skills with women, I see how some people in my life are toxic and I just need to let them go. The way I look at it surrounding my self with the best persons possible, helps push me to constantly improve every aspect of me.

[Westfall]

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[Sinatra]

One of the worst comments that I hear from any one about me is that "I try too hard".
One of the many things that I have been taught is never, I repeat never placate to comments like these. Instead, I just let it roll over me.
In a dancing class, I was working with a woman to get compliants. Her response was that I am a pain in the ass. I did not argue, I did not wine, I did not cry. I just smiled with a big cat that ate the canary grin, look at her, and said "I know".
I did get her into compliance with me.
One of the things that we should remember is when people complian about what we do (AND THEY WILL), we are not to get caught up into that.
People are going to critize what we do. Instead of reacting to what they are saying, we act by being cool or non-chalant with our reaction. This is also how women will test.
By the way, my response to that compliant was this:

"When was the last time that you got laid"?
"When was the last time that you went out with the same woman more than twice"?
(I already know what the answer is before I ask these questions).
Then I get silent and just smile. I made my point.

[Thaddeus]

This issue has come up for me a few times out and about. Mostly they just dont know whats going on and still have that mentality that they need to knock you down so they look better, or dont understand that you just have to meet every one. I can say though from a recent experience your sometimes better off with an outsider than a bunch of newb students. We had quite the adventures at the under21 convention with about 5 guys hitting a girl with 'who lies more men or women' in an hour.

[greenboy]

yes absolutley, and it can get me very angry.dont get me wrong my mates are important to me but they just dont see girls the way i do now and it can really mess things up.iv started notice all the AFC things they do and it makes me look like the Alpha male of a bunch of geeks as opposed to part of a group of dominant males which i would rather!what to do........i really dont know!