[QUOTE=Bull Run;39899]I agree. It will take literal war before anything changes.
[FONT=Tw Cen MT]The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.[/FONT][/QUOTE]
You're absolutely correct, but unfortunately, I do not foresee revolution anytime soon. The fact of the matter is that the us military is too advanced and powerful for a revolt to overcome. The arms available to the average Joe is rather meek compared to tanks, bombs and high caliber machine guns. Back in the 1800's, it was muzzle loaders vs. Muzzle loaders (with the occasional canon). Today's military weapons are just overwhelming. It's like how the US rolled over Baghdad and afghanistan.
I guess the only way for revolution is like Vietnam, guerilla warfare mutherfuckers (said like Hank moody)..!!
Hypothetically, what you see in movies can happen, but rather unlikely.
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by Guest » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:37 am
[QUOTE=Lion;39901]Getting back on the topic of marriage...
I am 100% pro marriage and pro family. I think growing old alone would be the worst kind of misery. I believe that the institution of marriage and family has been systematically destroyed as a divide and conquer strategy and it saddens me tremendously.
I think if one continues this lifestyle and chooses not to marry that that is a one way ticket to a wasted life. I think most are on the same page as me, but if not I would advise checking out an old folks home and see some old men who have no family to visit them and see how their life has been and currently is.
The life of a player is parallel to the life of a slut. It is obvious that the life of a slut is not the soul-fulfilling hype it is cracked up to be in popular movies and gossip magazines and is really a desperate and lonely strategy. It is obvious that a slut cannot make a good wife, but now I am seriously questioning if a player could ever be a good husband.
Are we as deluded as the slut in thinking that we can "have our fun" now and settle down later and make quality husbands...
I think we probably are.[/QUOTE]
there's nothing more i would like more than to have a loving wife and family living in a hoUse in the suburbs with the white picket fence; an American dream if you will.
Unfortunately, the times have changed and as I continue to see women for what they truly are, my views on marriage change (for the worse) and I can't help but be discouraged....
I am 100% pro marriage and pro family. I think growing old alone would be the worst kind of misery. I believe that the institution of marriage and family has been systematically destroyed as a divide and conquer strategy and it saddens me tremendously.
I think if one continues this lifestyle and chooses not to marry that that is a one way ticket to a wasted life. I think most are on the same page as me, but if not I would advise checking out an old folks home and see some old men who have no family to visit them and see how their life has been and currently is.
The life of a player is parallel to the life of a slut. It is obvious that the life of a slut is not the soul-fulfilling hype it is cracked up to be in popular movies and gossip magazines and is really a desperate and lonely strategy. It is obvious that a slut cannot make a good wife, but now I am seriously questioning if a player could ever be a good husband.
Are we as deluded as the slut in thinking that we can "have our fun" now and settle down later and make quality husbands...
I think we probably are.[/QUOTE]
there's nothing more i would like more than to have a loving wife and family living in a hoUse in the suburbs with the white picket fence; an American dream if you will.
Unfortunately, the times have changed and as I continue to see women for what they truly are, my views on marriage change (for the worse) and I can't help but be discouraged....
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by Guest » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:49 am
[QUOTE=Prodigy;39909]there's nothing more i would like more than to have a loving wife and family living in a hoUse in the suburbs with the white picket fence; an American dream if you will.
Unfortunately, the times have changed and as I continue to see women for what they truly are, my views on marriage change (for the worse) and I can't help but be discouraged....[/QUOTE]
I know the feeling my friend. The only option for a nice marriage is to outsource to a poorer, non feminized, non "equal rights" country. Since you like the white chicks Russia or Poland would be a good option for you.
Unfortunately, the times have changed and as I continue to see women for what they truly are, my views on marriage change (for the worse) and I can't help but be discouraged....[/QUOTE]
I know the feeling my friend. The only option for a nice marriage is to outsource to a poorer, non feminized, non "equal rights" country. Since you like the white chicks Russia or Poland would be a good option for you.
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by Guest » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:05 pm
[QUOTE=Lion;39901]Getting back on the topic of marriage...
I am 100% pro marriage and pro family. I think growing old alone would be the worst kind of misery. I believe that the institution of marriage and family has been systematically destroyed as a divide and conquer strategy and it saddens me tremendously.
I think if one continues this lifestyle and chooses not to marry that that is a one way ticket to a wasted life. I think most are on the same page as me, but if not I would advise checking out an old folks home and see some old men who have no family to visit them and see how their life has been and currently is.
The life of a player is parallel to the life of a slut. It is obvious that the life of a slut is not the soul-fulfilling hype it is cracked up to be in popular movies and gossip magazines and is really a desperate and lonely strategy. It is obvious that a slut cannot make a good wife, but now I am seriously questioning if a player could ever be a good husband.
Are we as deluded as the slut in thinking that we can "have our fun" now and settle down later and make quality husbands...
I think we probably are.[/QUOTE]
I have something to add here too.
All of the statistics being thrown around in this thread are probably pretty acurate. Only 33% of mariages succeed, 75% of all women are worthless slutbags, 100% of all foreign women make better wives, county girls get fat etc... Man, truthfully most guys are terrible with women(prob 70%) and don't ever get the chance to live the life we are living. And most of us were included in this majority at 1 time. That is to say we saw what we wanted, made changes to ourselves and beat the discouraging odds of the average guys success with women. Stats can validate your opinion or stance whenever you want them too. But if anyone can see what they want and simply go get it, or be in that "lucky" 33% of successful marriages it is us. What is any of our social mastery, empowerment or alphaness worth if we don't consider ourselves the exception not the rule. If the playboy lifestyle makes me happy, I'm going live it and big. If I want a happy marriage I will figure a way out to have one. Less is out of the scope our control than these beta boys who fail at marriage and fail at life.
I don't consider myself nieve and have never wanted to get married. This isn't defending one viewpoint or the other. Just saying....
I am 100% pro marriage and pro family. I think growing old alone would be the worst kind of misery. I believe that the institution of marriage and family has been systematically destroyed as a divide and conquer strategy and it saddens me tremendously.
I think if one continues this lifestyle and chooses not to marry that that is a one way ticket to a wasted life. I think most are on the same page as me, but if not I would advise checking out an old folks home and see some old men who have no family to visit them and see how their life has been and currently is.
The life of a player is parallel to the life of a slut. It is obvious that the life of a slut is not the soul-fulfilling hype it is cracked up to be in popular movies and gossip magazines and is really a desperate and lonely strategy. It is obvious that a slut cannot make a good wife, but now I am seriously questioning if a player could ever be a good husband.
Are we as deluded as the slut in thinking that we can "have our fun" now and settle down later and make quality husbands...
I think we probably are.[/QUOTE]
I have something to add here too.
All of the statistics being thrown around in this thread are probably pretty acurate. Only 33% of mariages succeed, 75% of all women are worthless slutbags, 100% of all foreign women make better wives, county girls get fat etc... Man, truthfully most guys are terrible with women(prob 70%) and don't ever get the chance to live the life we are living. And most of us were included in this majority at 1 time. That is to say we saw what we wanted, made changes to ourselves and beat the discouraging odds of the average guys success with women. Stats can validate your opinion or stance whenever you want them too. But if anyone can see what they want and simply go get it, or be in that "lucky" 33% of successful marriages it is us. What is any of our social mastery, empowerment or alphaness worth if we don't consider ourselves the exception not the rule. If the playboy lifestyle makes me happy, I'm going live it and big. If I want a happy marriage I will figure a way out to have one. Less is out of the scope our control than these beta boys who fail at marriage and fail at life.
I don't consider myself nieve and have never wanted to get married. This isn't defending one viewpoint or the other. Just saying....
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by Guest » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:15 pm
[QUOTE=Ram;39913]I have something to add here too.
All of the statistics being thrown around in this thread are probably pretty acurate. Only 33% of mariages succeed, 75% of all women are worthless slutbags, 100% of all foreign women make better wives, county girls get fat etc... Man, truthfully most guys are terrible with women(prob 70%) and don't ever get the chance to live the life we are living. And most of us were included in this majority at 1 time. That is to say we saw what we wanted, made changes to ourselves and beat the discouraging odds of the average guys success with women. Stats can validate your opinion or stance whenever you want them too. But if anyone can see what they want and simply go get it, or be in that "lucky" 33% of successful marriages it is us. What is any of our social mastery, empowerment or alphaness worth if we don't consider ourselves the exception not the rule. If the playboy lifestyle makes me happy, I'm going live it and big. If I want a happy marriage I will figure a way out to have one. Less is out of the scope our control than these beta boys who fail at marriage and fail at life.
I don't consider myself nieve and have never wanted to get married. This isn't defending one viewpoint or the other. Just saying....[/QUOTE]
marraiges are a relationship with two people with two brains, two personalities and two lives. Even if you had tight game, were alpha and the perfect husband, there's a chance your marraige will end in divorce.
She can change and fall out of love then file for divorce. You have very little control of what happens because the other side of the marriage (your wife) can do what she wants with her life (empowered by feminism). The only chance we have is to have super tight game, and even then, it's no guarantee that she'll stick around through the hard times...
In old times, people had a reason to be married and to stay married. Nowadays, divorce is so easy to obtain and has little negative connoation, it's more accepted now. This only encourgaes women to file for divorce...
All of the statistics being thrown around in this thread are probably pretty acurate. Only 33% of mariages succeed, 75% of all women are worthless slutbags, 100% of all foreign women make better wives, county girls get fat etc... Man, truthfully most guys are terrible with women(prob 70%) and don't ever get the chance to live the life we are living. And most of us were included in this majority at 1 time. That is to say we saw what we wanted, made changes to ourselves and beat the discouraging odds of the average guys success with women. Stats can validate your opinion or stance whenever you want them too. But if anyone can see what they want and simply go get it, or be in that "lucky" 33% of successful marriages it is us. What is any of our social mastery, empowerment or alphaness worth if we don't consider ourselves the exception not the rule. If the playboy lifestyle makes me happy, I'm going live it and big. If I want a happy marriage I will figure a way out to have one. Less is out of the scope our control than these beta boys who fail at marriage and fail at life.
I don't consider myself nieve and have never wanted to get married. This isn't defending one viewpoint or the other. Just saying....[/QUOTE]
marraiges are a relationship with two people with two brains, two personalities and two lives. Even if you had tight game, were alpha and the perfect husband, there's a chance your marraige will end in divorce.
She can change and fall out of love then file for divorce. You have very little control of what happens because the other side of the marriage (your wife) can do what she wants with her life (empowered by feminism). The only chance we have is to have super tight game, and even then, it's no guarantee that she'll stick around through the hard times...
In old times, people had a reason to be married and to stay married. Nowadays, divorce is so easy to obtain and has little negative connoation, it's more accepted now. This only encourgaes women to file for divorce...
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by Guest » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:44 pm
[QUOTE=Prodigy;39915]marraiges are a relationship with two people with two brains, two personalities and two lives. Even if you had tight game, were alpha and the perfect husband, there's a chance your marraige will end in divorce.
She can change and fall out of love then file for divorce. You have very little control of what happens because the other side of the marriage (your wife) can do what she wants with her life (empowered by feminism). The only chance we have is to have super tight game, and even then, it's no guarantee that she'll stick around through the hard times...
In old times, people had a reason to be married and to stay married. Nowadays, divorce is so easy to obtain and has little negative connoation, it's more accepted now. This only encourgaes women to file for divorce...[/QUOTE]
Not denying that at all. Marriage is pretty benificial for women and divorce is pretty consequence less for them. Trusting somebody is a huge gamble nowadays for any reason. This is probably the biggest trust you can put in someone and you are giving it to someone who will pay little to no consequence when breaking it. But marriage has made some people really happy in life. Big risk=big reward. None of this should scare someone that wants to get married or thinks that will make them happy. These things don't work out for most people. That is pretty safe to say.
She can change and fall out of love then file for divorce. You have very little control of what happens because the other side of the marriage (your wife) can do what she wants with her life (empowered by feminism). The only chance we have is to have super tight game, and even then, it's no guarantee that she'll stick around through the hard times...
In old times, people had a reason to be married and to stay married. Nowadays, divorce is so easy to obtain and has little negative connoation, it's more accepted now. This only encourgaes women to file for divorce...[/QUOTE]
Not denying that at all. Marriage is pretty benificial for women and divorce is pretty consequence less for them. Trusting somebody is a huge gamble nowadays for any reason. This is probably the biggest trust you can put in someone and you are giving it to someone who will pay little to no consequence when breaking it. But marriage has made some people really happy in life. Big risk=big reward. None of this should scare someone that wants to get married or thinks that will make them happy. These things don't work out for most people. That is pretty safe to say.
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by Guest » Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:57 pm
[QUOTE=Lion;39901]
I think if one continues this lifestyle and chooses not to marry that that is a one way ticket to a wasted life. I think most are on the same page as me, but if not I would advise checking out an old folks home and see some old men who have no family to visit them and see how their life has been and currently is.
[/QUOTE]
I think the old men in the retirement home being unhappy is more a function of old age, than being alone.
We are born alone, we go through much of life alone, and die alone. You are the only one who will always be there for you.
I don't have stats, but I bet most of those men in the retirement home where once married and do have a family. But they put them in the old folks home because it is too much work and too much of an inconvience to take care of them.
Say you do get married. That's no garantee that you won't end up in the retirement home alone. What if your wife divorces you? You are back at square one. And with the divorce stats the way they are, that is a good chance. What if your wife dies before you do? Simply getting married doesn't garantee a happy life where you will have someone with you till the end of time. But I do understand where you are coming from and wanting to have someone badass to go through life with. I think everyone would want that.
The worst part is the old age, you can't do anything for yourself, and you can't do anything like you used to. To me getting old and decrepit is the worst part of it all.
The bottom line is to do what you feel is best for you. Marriage is for some people, it's not for others. Everyone knows deep down what they prefer.
I think if one continues this lifestyle and chooses not to marry that that is a one way ticket to a wasted life. I think most are on the same page as me, but if not I would advise checking out an old folks home and see some old men who have no family to visit them and see how their life has been and currently is.
[/QUOTE]
I think the old men in the retirement home being unhappy is more a function of old age, than being alone.
We are born alone, we go through much of life alone, and die alone. You are the only one who will always be there for you.
I don't have stats, but I bet most of those men in the retirement home where once married and do have a family. But they put them in the old folks home because it is too much work and too much of an inconvience to take care of them.
Say you do get married. That's no garantee that you won't end up in the retirement home alone. What if your wife divorces you? You are back at square one. And with the divorce stats the way they are, that is a good chance. What if your wife dies before you do? Simply getting married doesn't garantee a happy life where you will have someone with you till the end of time. But I do understand where you are coming from and wanting to have someone badass to go through life with. I think everyone would want that.
The worst part is the old age, you can't do anything for yourself, and you can't do anything like you used to. To me getting old and decrepit is the worst part of it all.
The bottom line is to do what you feel is best for you. Marriage is for some people, it's not for others. Everyone knows deep down what they prefer.
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by Guest » Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:14 pm
[QUOTE=Gunslinger;39921]
I don't have stats, but I bet most of those men in the retirement home where once married [B]and do have a family[/B]. But they put them in the old folks home because it is too much work and too much of an inconvience to take care of them.[/QUOTE]
I said men who have no family. If it was not clear before it should be clear now. Men who do not have, nor have ever had, a family.
[QUOTE=Gunslinger;39921]Say you do get married. That's no garantee that you won't end up in the retirement home alone. What if your wife divorces you? You are back at square one. And with the divorce stats the way they are, that is a good chance. What if your wife dies before you do? Simply getting married doesn't garantee a happy life where you will have someone with you till the end of time. [/QUOTE]
In the words of Clark W. Griswold "do you honestly think I don't know that?"
I don't have stats, but I bet most of those men in the retirement home where once married [B]and do have a family[/B]. But they put them in the old folks home because it is too much work and too much of an inconvience to take care of them.[/QUOTE]
I said men who have no family. If it was not clear before it should be clear now. Men who do not have, nor have ever had, a family.
[QUOTE=Gunslinger;39921]Say you do get married. That's no garantee that you won't end up in the retirement home alone. What if your wife divorces you? You are back at square one. And with the divorce stats the way they are, that is a good chance. What if your wife dies before you do? Simply getting married doesn't garantee a happy life where you will have someone with you till the end of time. [/QUOTE]
In the words of Clark W. Griswold "do you honestly think I don't know that?"
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by Guest » Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:30 pm
[QUOTE=Prodigy;39915]She can change and fall out of love then file for divorce. You have very little control of what happens because the other side of the marriage (your wife) can do what she wants with her life (empowered by feminism). The only chance we have is to have super tight game, and even then, it's no guarantee that she'll stick around through the hard times...
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So there is no guarantee. Boo hoo. Be a man and suck it up if it fails it fails. If you both stick around through (inevitible) hard times it will have been worth it. If not c'est la vie. Plenty more fish in plentyoffish. Try to look past the illusion of guaranteed future happiness and just live life day by day. Nobody knows what will happen tomorrow. Nobody not even some of the posters on this thread (shockingly).
Also you can do what you want with your life as well (empowered by masculinism? lol) so that's 50/50, no? Other than law where is the percieved inequality? Lots of laws suck. Don't get sued or don't have money they can take. Fuck people are stupid there are so many answers. Marriage is a contract remember. Eyes wide open if you decide to take the chance then stack the deck in your own favour.
Marriage is very closely tied to religion. That's also a good place to understand the whys and wherefores (if you care to). Can't really say that has been a historically female friendly haven now can we?
Do you go into everything in life knowing of 100% success in your endevours? Welcome to the real world. I bought a stock yesterday and the f*cker went down can you believe it? I want my money back.
[/QUOTE]
So there is no guarantee. Boo hoo. Be a man and suck it up if it fails it fails. If you both stick around through (inevitible) hard times it will have been worth it. If not c'est la vie. Plenty more fish in plentyoffish. Try to look past the illusion of guaranteed future happiness and just live life day by day. Nobody knows what will happen tomorrow. Nobody not even some of the posters on this thread (shockingly).
Also you can do what you want with your life as well (empowered by masculinism? lol) so that's 50/50, no? Other than law where is the percieved inequality? Lots of laws suck. Don't get sued or don't have money they can take. Fuck people are stupid there are so many answers. Marriage is a contract remember. Eyes wide open if you decide to take the chance then stack the deck in your own favour.
Marriage is very closely tied to religion. That's also a good place to understand the whys and wherefores (if you care to). Can't really say that has been a historically female friendly haven now can we?
Do you go into everything in life knowing of 100% success in your endevours? Welcome to the real world. I bought a stock yesterday and the f*cker went down can you believe it? I want my money back.
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