I've been on other forums (and currently banned on one) where the guys are all womanly and if you bust their chops, they get all emotional and next thing you know, you have "warnings" and shit.
The other members cuddle and tell them it'll be alright, and when I make a joke, about the whole thing, they get all emotional...I never did like having to feel like I'm walking on eggshells around people. I mean...I'm not a rude guy, am I? I'm honest but usually when I see something negative, I withhold it unless it's relevant.
I guess my point is, isn't the community supposed to be about becoming a better, stronger, and more alpha man?
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Is the community full of...wimps??
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by Guest » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:18 am
Hope I'm not asking too much to ask for you to elaborate. "Douche" "douchey" and "douchebag" is one of those misunderstood terms that could have a wide variety of meanings. from "Assholish" to "Pretentious"
I could live with the "asshole" part, I'll just have to find a way to make it work for me than against me. Maybe I expect people to have thinker skin...
But if by "douchey" you mean "pretentious" I'd have to totally disagree. I don't believe that I have ever claimed to be anyone or anything that I'm not, and I've said several times that while I've been "In the community" for all this time that I'm probably one of the least experienced. I've never been anything short of honest. Most of you guys are on a totally different level from me...in Game as well as in life.
The only member here that I seem to have a problem with is Finesse, and no way can you blame that on me. He totally attacked me and my religious beliefs, and he wasn't subtle about it at all (lol he didn't use any "Finesse" lol). He has hatred for me and an entire demographic of people. Which is totally fucked up. I wasn't being disingenuous when I said that I like him, but there's no way that I could be friends with someone who hates me. especially when it's based on something other than the content of my character.
Kinda sucks that we can't talk about religion or politics without being called a "Child Molester" I really expected better
I could live with the "asshole" part, I'll just have to find a way to make it work for me than against me. Maybe I expect people to have thinker skin...
But if by "douchey" you mean "pretentious" I'd have to totally disagree. I don't believe that I have ever claimed to be anyone or anything that I'm not, and I've said several times that while I've been "In the community" for all this time that I'm probably one of the least experienced. I've never been anything short of honest. Most of you guys are on a totally different level from me...in Game as well as in life.
The only member here that I seem to have a problem with is Finesse, and no way can you blame that on me. He totally attacked me and my religious beliefs, and he wasn't subtle about it at all (lol he didn't use any "Finesse" lol). He has hatred for me and an entire demographic of people. Which is totally fucked up. I wasn't being disingenuous when I said that I like him, but there's no way that I could be friends with someone who hates me. especially when it's based on something other than the content of my character.
Kinda sucks that we can't talk about religion or politics without being called a "Child Molester" I really expected better
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by Guest » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:39 am
[QUOTE=Muk;35843]
The only member here that I seem to have a problem with is Finesse, and no way can you blame that on me. He totally attacked me and my religious beliefs, and he wasn't subtle about it at all (lol he didn't use any "Finesse" lol). He has hatred for me and an entire demographic of people. Which is totally fucked up. I wasn't being disingenuous when I said that I like him, but there's no way that I could be friends with someone who hates me. especially when it's based on something other than the content of my character.
Kinda sucks that we can't talk about religion or politics without being called a "Child Molester" I really expected better[/QUOTE]
Nice try with the victim card.
No attacks here bud, all I'm saying is before you try and replace the christian backings that made this country great why don't you pick something that has a better track record of peace and advancement.
Last I checked, most of the hate and violence being purpetuated in the world revolves around socialism, people not getting what government officials promised (i.e. socialism), and muslims thinking someone, as you say, "[disrespected]" them and so they retaliate.
And you're damn right. I will fight to keep a proven system over an archaic one that has shown little improvement over the past 200 years. The really fucked up part is that you wouldn't. That, to me, is just plain ignorant.
The only member here that I seem to have a problem with is Finesse, and no way can you blame that on me. He totally attacked me and my religious beliefs, and he wasn't subtle about it at all (lol he didn't use any "Finesse" lol). He has hatred for me and an entire demographic of people. Which is totally fucked up. I wasn't being disingenuous when I said that I like him, but there's no way that I could be friends with someone who hates me. especially when it's based on something other than the content of my character.
Kinda sucks that we can't talk about religion or politics without being called a "Child Molester" I really expected better[/QUOTE]
Nice try with the victim card.
No attacks here bud, all I'm saying is before you try and replace the christian backings that made this country great why don't you pick something that has a better track record of peace and advancement.
Last I checked, most of the hate and violence being purpetuated in the world revolves around socialism, people not getting what government officials promised (i.e. socialism), and muslims thinking someone, as you say, "[disrespected]" them and so they retaliate.
And you're damn right. I will fight to keep a proven system over an archaic one that has shown little improvement over the past 200 years. The really fucked up part is that you wouldn't. That, to me, is just plain ignorant.
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by Guest » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:10 am
[QUOTE=Muk;35843]Hope I'm not asking too much to ask for you to elaborate. "Douche" "douchey" and "douchebag" is one of those misunderstood terms that could have a wide variety of meanings. from "Assholish" to "Pretentious"
I could live with the "asshole" part, I'll just have to find a way to make it work for me than against me. Maybe I expect people to have thinker skin...
But if by "douchey" you mean "pretentious" I'd have to totally disagree. I don't believe that I have ever claimed to be anyone or anything that I'm not, and I've said several times that while I've been "In the community" for all this time that I'm probably one of the least experienced. I've never been anything short of honest. Most of you guys are on a totally different level from me...in Game as well as in life.
The only member here that I seem to have a problem with is Finesse, and no way can you blame that on me. He totally attacked me and my religious beliefs, and he wasn't subtle about it at all (lol he didn't use any "Finesse" lol). He has hatred for me and an entire demographic of people. Which is totally fucked up. I wasn't being disingenuous when I said that I like him, but there's no way that I could be friends with someone who hates me. especially when it's based on something other than the content of my character.
Kinda sucks that we can't talk about religion or politics without being called a "Child Molester" I really expected better[/QUOTE]
I don't get a hint of pretentiousness from you at all, in fact, the opposite. Let's take the political and religious stuff and set that aside for now.
You asked if the Community is full of wimps. I say, no. Instead, it's full of people that take this shit seriously. The tone of the vast majority of your posts is one of disdain. There is very little substance to the posts you make about pick-up and there are a lot of one-liners that just aren't appropriate most of the time. You've admitted that most of us are on a different level than you and I think you're a bit defensive and insecure about this fact. So, I think your defense mechanism is to be sarcastic and belittling regarding what we're doing...it's almost as if you envy others on the boards. And, if that's the case, then that's your problem and yours alone because you're the only one that can improve your lot in life.
It's almost as if you try to compensate for being at a different level by trying to be above it all, which is a mistake and easily sensed by others.
Listen man, I don't dislike you in any way...conversely I can say that I'm not too fond of you either...consider me to be neutral. If you post on other boards what you post here, then I can totally see why they ban you. Most of the time you don't offer anything constructive to say and act almost as if pick-up is a joke to you.
I know for a FACT that I'm not the first person to say something like this to you.
The most you've ever written about was religion and politics and, quite frankly, I think a lot of what you write is your attempt to start a flame war or simply annoy the fuck out of others for sport.
As for Finesse hating you, I can totally see why. You say that he dislikes you because of your religious beliefs or stance on religious beliefs and not the content of your character. I say that if he does dislike you it is 100% because of the content of your character...remember religious and political beliefs make up a large part of someone's character.
I could live with the "asshole" part, I'll just have to find a way to make it work for me than against me. Maybe I expect people to have thinker skin...
But if by "douchey" you mean "pretentious" I'd have to totally disagree. I don't believe that I have ever claimed to be anyone or anything that I'm not, and I've said several times that while I've been "In the community" for all this time that I'm probably one of the least experienced. I've never been anything short of honest. Most of you guys are on a totally different level from me...in Game as well as in life.
The only member here that I seem to have a problem with is Finesse, and no way can you blame that on me. He totally attacked me and my religious beliefs, and he wasn't subtle about it at all (lol he didn't use any "Finesse" lol). He has hatred for me and an entire demographic of people. Which is totally fucked up. I wasn't being disingenuous when I said that I like him, but there's no way that I could be friends with someone who hates me. especially when it's based on something other than the content of my character.
Kinda sucks that we can't talk about religion or politics without being called a "Child Molester" I really expected better[/QUOTE]
I don't get a hint of pretentiousness from you at all, in fact, the opposite. Let's take the political and religious stuff and set that aside for now.
You asked if the Community is full of wimps. I say, no. Instead, it's full of people that take this shit seriously. The tone of the vast majority of your posts is one of disdain. There is very little substance to the posts you make about pick-up and there are a lot of one-liners that just aren't appropriate most of the time. You've admitted that most of us are on a different level than you and I think you're a bit defensive and insecure about this fact. So, I think your defense mechanism is to be sarcastic and belittling regarding what we're doing...it's almost as if you envy others on the boards. And, if that's the case, then that's your problem and yours alone because you're the only one that can improve your lot in life.
It's almost as if you try to compensate for being at a different level by trying to be above it all, which is a mistake and easily sensed by others.
Listen man, I don't dislike you in any way...conversely I can say that I'm not too fond of you either...consider me to be neutral. If you post on other boards what you post here, then I can totally see why they ban you. Most of the time you don't offer anything constructive to say and act almost as if pick-up is a joke to you.
I know for a FACT that I'm not the first person to say something like this to you.
The most you've ever written about was religion and politics and, quite frankly, I think a lot of what you write is your attempt to start a flame war or simply annoy the fuck out of others for sport.
As for Finesse hating you, I can totally see why. You say that he dislikes you because of your religious beliefs or stance on religious beliefs and not the content of your character. I say that if he does dislike you it is 100% because of the content of your character...remember religious and political beliefs make up a large part of someone's character.
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by Guest » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:44 am
[QUOTE=Muk;35841]I've been on other forums (and currently banned on one) where the guys are all womanly and if you bust their chops, they get all emotional and next thing you know, you have "warnings" and shit.
The other members cuddle and tell them it'll be alright, and when I make a joke, about the whole thing, they get all emotional...I never did like having to feel like I'm walking on eggshells around people. I mean...I'm not a rude guy, am I? I'm honest but usually when I see something negative, I withhold it unless it's relevant.
I guess my point is, isn't the community supposed to be about becoming a better, stronger, and more alpha man?[/QUOTE]
This seems extremely odd coming from you. I'm probably the only one on the board that has multi-night experience with you in-field. To cut to the point, you are currently a KJ. You're very opinionated, intelligent, and assertive on the internet.
You are the exact opposite in person.
Remember me having to get you shit can hammered before you'd even approach? And, even then, it was like pulling teeth? Perhaps these "weak" individuals you speak of on the various board you're trolling are in a similar place as yourself...they just act their level.
The other members cuddle and tell them it'll be alright, and when I make a joke, about the whole thing, they get all emotional...I never did like having to feel like I'm walking on eggshells around people. I mean...I'm not a rude guy, am I? I'm honest but usually when I see something negative, I withhold it unless it's relevant.
I guess my point is, isn't the community supposed to be about becoming a better, stronger, and more alpha man?[/QUOTE]
This seems extremely odd coming from you. I'm probably the only one on the board that has multi-night experience with you in-field. To cut to the point, you are currently a KJ. You're very opinionated, intelligent, and assertive on the internet.
You are the exact opposite in person.
Remember me having to get you shit can hammered before you'd even approach? And, even then, it was like pulling teeth? Perhaps these "weak" individuals you speak of on the various board you're trolling are in a similar place as yourself...they just act their level.
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by Guest » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:33 am
Finesse:
1: I don't follow this sharia law that you're talking about, in fact, I didn't even know much about it until you brought it up. I'm not Iraqi or Afghan, I'm American, and I follow American law. Sharia is the law of foreign countries, not mine. but once I looked it up, I found out that this "Archaic" and "outdated" system is actually similar to what we use today in fact, our system seems to be based (albeit loosely) on Sharia. It wasn't hard for me to find this out and it kinda pissed me off when you attacked the system without even looking it up.
But also consider that our current system isn't exactly the "holy grail" either. look at how that Health Care bill got through with everyone hating it. and how we have corporations with their lobbyists pretty much owning Washington.
I'm not "playing the victim card" I am the victim. There's an attacker (you) and one who is being attack "victim" (me) I AM the victim. Surely you can see that...
BR:
You say that he hates me because of my religion which makes up a large part of who I am. That's not fair at all. There are different Muslims just like there are different Christians. I can be friends with most Christians, but not so much with the extremist Jesus freaks (get my point ??) And comparing me with the Muslims in some ass backwards foreign land is like comparing you to Christians of the Dark Ages. I'm nothing like them. I don't support or defend them or their laws, but I do defend their right to govern themself and to make their own laws. If you want to be a Lesbian Christian Feminist Nudist, then maybe you should respect their laws and not be one there.
1: I don't follow this sharia law that you're talking about, in fact, I didn't even know much about it until you brought it up. I'm not Iraqi or Afghan, I'm American, and I follow American law. Sharia is the law of foreign countries, not mine. but once I looked it up, I found out that this "Archaic" and "outdated" system is actually similar to what we use today in fact, our system seems to be based (albeit loosely) on Sharia. It wasn't hard for me to find this out and it kinda pissed me off when you attacked the system without even looking it up.
But also consider that our current system isn't exactly the "holy grail" either. look at how that Health Care bill got through with everyone hating it. and how we have corporations with their lobbyists pretty much owning Washington.
I'm not "playing the victim card" I am the victim. There's an attacker (you) and one who is being attack "victim" (me) I AM the victim. Surely you can see that...
BR:
You say that he hates me because of my religion which makes up a large part of who I am. That's not fair at all. There are different Muslims just like there are different Christians. I can be friends with most Christians, but not so much with the extremist Jesus freaks (get my point ??) And comparing me with the Muslims in some ass backwards foreign land is like comparing you to Christians of the Dark Ages. I'm nothing like them. I don't support or defend them or their laws, but I do defend their right to govern themself and to make their own laws. If you want to be a Lesbian Christian Feminist Nudist, then maybe you should respect their laws and not be one there.
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by Guest » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:42 am
[QUOTE=Smirks;35847]This seems extremely odd coming from you. I'm probably the only one on the board that has multi-night experience with you in-field. To cut to the point, you are currently a KJ. You're very opinionated, intelligent, and assertive on the internet.
You are the exact opposite in person.
Remember me having to get you shit can hammered before you'd even approach? And, even then, it was like pulling teeth? Perhaps these "weak" individuals you speak of on the various board you're trolling are in a similar place as yourself...they just act their level.[/QUOTE]
lmao! I'm still intelligent in the field.
but I agree with you...I feel like there's so much potential in myself, and that I just need to...I dunno snap. I'm different when I'm around friends or at work, but when I'm out "in the field" I have a hard time flipping the switch
You are the exact opposite in person.
Remember me having to get you shit can hammered before you'd even approach? And, even then, it was like pulling teeth? Perhaps these "weak" individuals you speak of on the various board you're trolling are in a similar place as yourself...they just act their level.[/QUOTE]
lmao! I'm still intelligent in the field.
but I agree with you...I feel like there's so much potential in myself, and that I just need to...I dunno snap. I'm different when I'm around friends or at work, but when I'm out "in the field" I have a hard time flipping the switch
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by Guest » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:52 am
[QUOTE=Muk;35848]BR:
You say that he hates me because of my religion which makes up a large part of who I am. That's not fair at all. There are different Muslims just like there are different Christians. I can be friends with most Christians, but not so much with the extremist Jesus freaks (get my point ??) And comparing me with the Muslims in some ass backwards foreign land is like comparing you to Christians of the Dark Ages. I'm nothing like them. I don't support or defend them or their laws, but I do defend their right to govern themself and to make their own laws. If you want to be a Lesbian Christian Feminist Nudist, then maybe you should respect their laws and not be one there.[/QUOTE]
It most certainly is fair to say. I have Liberal friends, but I find that as we've aged, we've drifted apart a lot because we just don't view the world the same way. They're good people sure, but the content of the character is not compatiable with my character. And, quite frankly, when I find out someone is Liberal I have a hard time getting past that fact because I truly believe that everything about the way they think, interact, and view the world is just plain wrong.
So, it is fair to say. Quit crying about whether or not Finesse likes you and worry about yourself and 'snapping' out of this attitude that you have when you're in field.
You say that he hates me because of my religion which makes up a large part of who I am. That's not fair at all. There are different Muslims just like there are different Christians. I can be friends with most Christians, but not so much with the extremist Jesus freaks (get my point ??) And comparing me with the Muslims in some ass backwards foreign land is like comparing you to Christians of the Dark Ages. I'm nothing like them. I don't support or defend them or their laws, but I do defend their right to govern themself and to make their own laws. If you want to be a Lesbian Christian Feminist Nudist, then maybe you should respect their laws and not be one there.[/QUOTE]
It most certainly is fair to say. I have Liberal friends, but I find that as we've aged, we've drifted apart a lot because we just don't view the world the same way. They're good people sure, but the content of the character is not compatiable with my character. And, quite frankly, when I find out someone is Liberal I have a hard time getting past that fact because I truly believe that everything about the way they think, interact, and view the world is just plain wrong.
So, it is fair to say. Quit crying about whether or not Finesse likes you and worry about yourself and 'snapping' out of this attitude that you have when you're in field.
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