More ragging on Obama...

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Postby Guest » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:16 pm

Fuck off.
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Postby Guest » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:20 pm

lol damn, man...control your emotions! Can't you argue without getting pissed??

I was really impressed with your post about Child Support, I couldn't find a hole in your argument at all.
But then, it might have been hard because I totally agree with you there
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Postby Guest » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:22 pm

I'm not pissed. I'm calmly tell you to, Fuck off, and then I am calmly calling you a child molester after I do that. So essentially I am saying in one breathe.

"Fuck off, child molester."
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Postby Guest » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:31 pm

haha calmly or not, it's still pissed.

and come on, man...you don't have to call me names...I understand you're probably emotional because of your daughter. maybe the fact that I don't have any children is why I can say and think what I do. but come on...you have no reason to say that I'm a child molester. I have no interest in women under the age of...at least 21 (with 23 as the golden age for me)

btw: I'm not supporting what you call pedophilia, I'm just saying that it's none of yours or my business what people do in their country. My opinion on it is that it's sick and twisted but like I said, it's none of my business, I have no say, and you have no say. If it were a problem, then their people will put a stop to it (and it looks like they're in the process of doing just that).
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Postby Guest » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:04 pm

[QUOTE=Finesse;35778]Ok, sue me, it wasn't exactly on that site. But it was on this one. I just tied 2 and 2 together.

[URL]http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/constellation/main/lox_methane_engine.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

That still doesn't say what you think it does. It says that once on the moon (or Mars), this technology would allow you to fuel a rocket by converting moon dust to liquid oxygen (or liquid methane on Mars), presumably for travel on the surface of the moon or, more importantly, for the return flight back to Earth because they wouldn't need to carry fuel for the return trip.

However, it doesn't say that landing on the moon is necessary to then go to Mars. Once you've left the Earth's atmosphere, you just keep going. It is terribly inefficient to land on a body with a large gravitational pull and then launch again.
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Postby Guest » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:15 pm

[QUOTE=grimm1111;35786]Obama scrapped the only CONCRETE program we had - with drawings, dates, budget figures, etc. And yes it was Obama, because it was done as a part of the executive budget recommendation.[/QUOTE]

That's a fair criticism. I don't know that it was the ONLY concrete program or even that it was a "concrete" program (someone more into NASA may be able to say just how complete this project was), but he did scrap an active program. The only thing I can say is that they will not forget everything they learned. There is science there that can be applied to other projects.

[quote]Sure he made promises about... someday long after his tenure.. landing on an asteroid and going to Mars, but that was only after our astronauts wrote a letter and a nation full of people like the ones on this board got pissed off and pressured him in to responding.

There is no meat behind those promises. Just cheap, pie in the sky "hope." Moon landings cost money...promises are free.[/quote]

This is similar to how Kennedy responded to the Russians beating the U.S. in orbiting the Earth. He made a promise to go to the moon to make people happy.

[quote]I am not so naive to believe a politician's promises. And Obama is def a politician's politician.[/quote]

I agree with you there. I don't trust promises made by a politician either.

[quote]I'd rather go to Mars too, so I guess my point is that I don't believe it's the "either/or" scenario Obama presented. In fact, I think going to the moon compliments the Mars mission. Put this way - how can we go to Mars if we can't even make it back to the moon?[/quote]

Do you really believe that we can't make it back to the moon?
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Postby Guest » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:45 pm

[URL]http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=XdSUuzIrkU[/URL]
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Postby Guest » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:17 pm

[QUOTE=Muk;35790]what good has Islam done? I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but Islam is a religion. Religions don't do anything. people do. Not only this, but you make yourself look like a pot calling the kettle black. plently of Christians (people, not the religion) have done atrocious things just like plenty of Muslims (It's Muslim, not "Islamist" don't be a tard) have done atrocious things. difference being when a muslim does something wrong, he's "OMG MUSLIM ISLAMIST TERRORIST EVILDOER" but when a Christian does something, he's simply known by name.

and I stand behind what I said about the "Underage" girl with older men. it's the people and government who decides what underage means, not some arrogant American who thinks that his way is the only way. They think a lot of things we do here are ass-backwards to. Do you want them telling you how you should live your life and govern YOUR country? Fact of the matter is, you're simply wrong on that count, it's not an opinion, you're wrong. Own up to it.[/QUOTE]


Sorry bro, but you don't see Christains beheading Muslims simply because they're Islamic.

And, as far as being an arrogant American, you need to get some perspective and see the world for what it truly is, not what you think it to be. Simply put, America underwrites the world. That's right, I said it. America and our exceptionalism has made this world a supremely better place. Think of what a dark place this world would be without America. But, I'll point it out for you step by fucking step...

-Let's start with all those wonderful social programs that can be found in France, Germany, the U.K., etc. those three countries spend approximately $175b per year on their militaries. The U.S., spends $600b. While, we can afford such spending and should have such spending, it also benefits the rest of the world because it allows France to spend 35% of their annual GDP on social programs, Germany 33%, and the U.K. 26%. These countries can spend money on trying to create a utopia because they know that the good ole U. S. of A. will come to their defense. Without the US, Taiwan would be under Chinese rule, South Korea wouldn't exist, Iran would OWN the middle east, Israel wouldn't exist, and the Soviet Curtain would never have fallen.

-Then, let's get to our economy. We are the BIGGEST importer of foreign goods in the FUCKING WORLD. The vibrancy of our capitalist system puts food on the tables of the rest of the world. If not for America, Japan wouldn't be what she is, China would be stuck in the middle ages, and Italy would have no market for her Ferrari's. Without our wealth, the world would be a much more impoverished place than it is...

-How about healthcare. Did you know that Americans spend more of their income on healthcare than any other nation in the world. Because it's so expensive and because we have such great access to healthcare. So, let's talk about the high cost of perscription drugs. Yes, it is a fact that they, in many cases, cost 3, 4, 5 times as much here than in other places around the world. But, why? Because foreign nations refuse to pay the actual price of what the drug should cost because the government has prevented their free markets from working correctly. So, to make up the difference, drug companies allow our free market to pay the vast majority of the cost of prescription drugs. The same holds true for medical devices and other equipment in healthcare. The fact is that our healthcare system was actually too good, not only did we pay for our drugs and healthcare, we helped pay for the rest of the fucking world's healthcare.

I could go on, but I won't...

So, you see, America definitely has a reason to be arrogant. If not for us, the world would be a much, much darker, dangerous, and bleak place. Imagine how great the world would be if the 3 billion + residents of the planet actually lived, worked, and interacted under a system such as ours. Instead, roughly 10% of the population is doing the real heavy lifting (actually it's more like 3 to 5%) and the rest of the world is living off our coat tails.

But, I agree with you. Let's stop buying good from overseas, pull our military out of every country save for our own, prevent immigration of any kind, refuse to help our allies during their time of need, and stop selling our drugs and medical equipment to foreign nations. If we were to follow those steps, the world be fall to her knees and beg for the good old days when America and her exceptionalism made this miserable world a much, much better place.

No offense, but you need to stop looking at the outcomes of things and you need to start digging in, peel back the onion a little bit to find why things are as they are. American's aren't arrogant without cause, we've earned it buddy.
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Postby Guest » Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:13 pm

I have a suggestion:

Why don't all you whining babies cry about politics and religion on a different site? A site that is, perchance, dedicated to politics or religion. No one here wants to read this horse shit.
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Postby Guest » Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:23 pm

[QUOTE=Lion;35800]I have a suggestion:

Why don't all you whining babies cry about politics and religion on a different site? A site that is, perchance, dedicated to politics or religion. No one here wants to read this horse shit.[/QUOTE]


lol @ Lion!!
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