Gonna take a ride on my motorbike.....

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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:10 pm

[QUOTE=Bull Run;35673]I'm not. I'm just saying that sometimes it's as simple as a chick fucking a guy for one specific reason. I've heard women say that they just fucked a guy because she found out, somehow, that he has a big dick. You don't have to be an interesting person, sometimes you just have to possess something that a woman finds appealling.[/QUOTE]

It depends on what your definition of "interesting" is too. Or, more accurately, what [B]her[/B] definition of "interesting" is. Maybe she's fascinated by bikes and bikers. To her, the bike is only an indicator that the guy might be interesting or attractive. In that case, I doubt it's the bike itself that gets her horny. That's the point I was trying to make.

Walking down the street with a guitar will not get you laid. Playing guitar with skill, creativity, and passion might.

Standing next to a bike will not get you laid. Being a person with the dedication to learn to ride a bike skillfully and safely while also accepting some risk and having a sense of adventure might get you laid.

Smirks, I agree with the overall point you are making. A bike is not a replacement for game.
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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:36 pm

Out of all of the inanimate things(bikes, boats, cars) I've had, my crutches I used when I had a broken hip got me the most bang for my buck! All I had to do was stand there and these girls opened me. I've never been able to duplicate that success.

Some of you guys may criticize but you still have to be interesting if you want to attract girls worth having. Yes inanimate objects attract attention much in the same way as good looks, But I can't be a total chump when some girl approaches me. It still takes social skill. Its a way to get your foot in the door. Those inanimate objects create a gateway for two people to unite for a common interest(the inanimate object).

Men use inanimate objects to attract women much in the same way as women use makeup and high heels to attract men.
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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:47 pm

[QUOTE=Rhody;35675]Walking down the street with a guitar will not get you laid. Playing guitar with skill, creativity, and passion might.[/QUOTE]


Attribution Error right there buddy. You got laid because of your skill, not because of anything else right? Not true. Women will fuck a guy for less, trust me. IF they stick around, then yes, it's more about YOU than what YOU HAVE.

I've known women that fuck guys that are in a band. Doesn't matter what kind of band, doesn't matter how good they are, it just matters that they're in a band. They may have never heard them play...doesn't matter, because they're in a band.

Obviously, this is the execption not the rule, but to say that it doesn't happen based purely on inanimate objects is not correct. Women can be just as shallow as men...shit, I've fucked girls just because they had fake tits, no other reason just for the tits.
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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:52 pm

[QUOTE=Rhody;35675]
Walking down the street with a guitar will not get you laid. Playing guitar with skill, creativity, and passion might.

Standing next to a bike will not get you laid. Being a person with the dedication to learn to ride a bike skillfully and safely while also accepting some risk and having a sense of adventure might get you laid.
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Being passionate about your hobbies is enormously attractive to a woman. I've been around auto racing all of my life and when women realize how passionate I am about my racing and see the blood, sweat, and tears I pour into it they become highly attracted.

Much like Rhody said, when that guitar, car, or motorcycle becomes who you are and how you live your life women are drawn towards the madness. If you've never experienced it then you simply aren't passionate enough about your hobby. And most likely it won't be just a hobby for you. Its a way of life.......almost an addiction.
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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:46 pm

A few words on this:
-Yes, I know bikes are dangerous. I lost my uncle on one a few years ago, and flew to Chicago to the funeral. A drunk driver hit him on his Harley.

-Yes, I do intend to take a safety course, and buy good gear.

-I'm likely buying a cruiser, rather than a rocket.

-NO, I don't expect my bike to have game for me. I do expect that it will help a bit. I don't have too much of the "tough guy, super bad ass, dangerous guy" edge to me. Possibly the bike will counterbalance that.

-I'm buying the bike for transportation, not for the game aspects.

-Edit: Most guys in my family have owned bikes. My uncles always had one, and my uncle Chuck still does. Both Grandfathers owned them for many years also.
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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:16 pm

You didn't thank me for the plug I gave you in my previous post holmes...how rude.
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Postby Guest » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:09 am

[QUOTE=Bull Run;35677]Attribution Error right there buddy. You got laid because of your skill, not because of anything else right? Not true. Women will fuck a guy for less, trust me. IF they stick around, then yes, it's more about YOU than what YOU HAVE.

I've known women that fuck guys that are in a band. Doesn't matter what kind of band, doesn't matter how good they are, it just matters that they're in a band. They may have never heard them play...doesn't matter, because they're in a band.[/QUOTE]

Now I think you're making an attribution error. If a woman fucks a guy because he's in a band, it's not because of an inanimate object; it's because he has the dedication to take his hobby out of the bedroom and get serious about it, he has commitment to his band mates, he has the courage to express himself in front of an audience. It doesn't matter if it's a bad band. It takes major cajones to get up and fail in front of an audience. Plus, there's an assumed amount of social proof with guys in bands.

[quote]Obviously, this is the execption not the rule, but to say that it doesn't happen based purely on inanimate objects is not correct. Women can be just as shallow as men...shit, I've fucked girls just because they had fake tits, no other reason just for the tits.[/quote]

Men can be shallow. Women have their shallow moments too. Hey, I once knew a girl who fucked a guy just because he knew some routines. Now that's shallow.
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Postby Guest » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:21 am

[QUOTE=Rhody;35682]Now I think you're making an attribution error. If a woman fucks a guy because he's in a band, it's not because of an inanimate object; it's because he has the dedication to take his hobby out of the bedroom and get serious about it, he has commitment to his band mates, he has the courage to express himself in front of an audience. It doesn't matter if it's a bad band. It takes major cajones to get up and fail in front of an audience. Plus, there's an assumed amount of social proof with guys in bands.



Men can be shallow. Women have their shallow moments too. Hey, I once knew a girl who fucked a guy just because he knew some routines. Now that's shallow.[/QUOTE]


I don't think you actually know what Attribution Error means:

In [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_psychology"][COLOR=#002bb8]social psychology[/COLOR][/URL], the [B]fundamental attribution error[/B] (also known as [B]correspondence bias[/B] or [B]attribution effect[/B]) describes the tendency to over-value [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition"][COLOR=#002bb8]dispositional[/COLOR][/URL] or personality-based explanations for the observed [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behaviors"][COLOR=#002bb8]behaviors[/COLOR][/URL] of others while under-valuing situational explanations for those behaviors.

It's your belief that a girl is fucking you because what being in a band says about you, which I think is generally true, but sometimes women don't go that deep. Sometimes it has nothing to do with the symbolism of the inanimate object and it's strictly about the inanimate object.

Sometimes things are what they are and they hold no deeper meaning.
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Postby Guest » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:02 pm

[QUOTE=Bull Run;35683]I don't think you actually know what Attribution Error means:

In [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_psychology"][COLOR=#002bb8]social psychology[/COLOR][/URL], the [B]fundamental attribution error[/B] (also known as [B]correspondence bias[/B] or [B]attribution effect[/B]) describes the tendency to over-value [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition"][COLOR=#002bb8]dispositional[/COLOR][/URL] or personality-based explanations for the observed [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behaviors"][COLOR=#002bb8]behaviors[/COLOR][/URL] of others while under-valuing situational explanations for those behaviors.

It's your belief that a girl is fucking you because what being in a band says about you, which I think is generally true, but sometimes women don't go that deep. Sometimes it has nothing to do with the symbolism of the inanimate object and it's strictly about the inanimate object.

Sometimes things are what they are and they hold no deeper meaning.[/QUOTE]

Our difference of opinion is not in how we define "attribution error," but instead in how we attribute the woman's behavior. I believe it goes deeper than the object itself and you believe it does not. That's cool. I get your point.
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Postby Guest » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:01 pm

[QUOTE=Rhody;35685]Our difference of opinion is not in how we define "attribution error," but instead in how we attribute the woman's behavior. I believe it goes deeper than the object itself and you believe it does not. That's cool. I get your point.[/QUOTE]


Not exactly. I said that it isn't 100% always deeper, just as it's not 100% always superficial. Sometimes women just fuck a guy because he possesses something that she values...i.e. money.
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