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not sure what to think....
by Guest » Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:12 pm
I've working really hard on my day game. But when i'm out working on my game, say the mall for instance, and i see woman walking towards me, LOOKING AT ME (not just a quick glance but a good look at me)....and i'm looking at her....as we approach each other she totally looks away like she's not interested or totally ignoring me!!! I get that alot!!!!! They look to the side like they're window shopping or something like that. I'm apprehensive of opening those girls when that happens. I know i should try, but just haven't. the real quesion is IS IT GOOD THAT THEY LOOK AWAY LIKE THAT?? Help!!
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by Guest » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:23 pm
[QUOTE=bryanc182;34641]I've working really hard on my day game. But when i'm out working on my game, say the mall for instance, and i see woman walking towards me, LOOKING AT ME (not just a quick glance but a good look at me)....and i'm looking at her....as we approach each other she totally looks away like she's not interested or totally ignoring me!!! I get that alot!!!!! They look to the side like they're window shopping or something like that. I'm apprehensive of opening those girls when that happens. I know i should try, but just haven't. the real quesion is IS IT GOOD THAT THEY LOOK AWAY LIKE THAT?? Help!![/QUOTE]
Girls will almost always break eye contact with you first. The reason for this is two-fold: 1) you are the aggressor, so she's not going to stare you down and 2) she's going to use the WAY she breaks eye contact with you as an indicator as to whether or not you should or have permission to approach. Permission is a bad word, more like the "go ahead, I'll be receptive to your advances."
Most AFCs that I know and, even myself back in the day, think that just because a girl looks in your general direction that she's attracted to you or wants you. Not true.
Generally, the way to tell is how she breaks eye contact...remember, let her break it first, even if it's uncomfortable to hold it until she does so. If she breaks eye contact to the side or up, then she's more than likely not interested in you. However, if she breaks eye contact down, then she's taking a more submissive position because she's ready for you to be aggressive towards her. That's the flashing neon sign that says approach me, approach me.
I've approached women that have done both and have found that the ones that break down, tend to be more receptive and are 'easier' to Game because they most likely want you to talk with them. The ones that break to the side or up, are more difficult to Game because they're not all that receptive to your presence. Understand that you can still build attraction, but it'll probably be a little harder.
Girls will almost always break eye contact with you first. The reason for this is two-fold: 1) you are the aggressor, so she's not going to stare you down and 2) she's going to use the WAY she breaks eye contact with you as an indicator as to whether or not you should or have permission to approach. Permission is a bad word, more like the "go ahead, I'll be receptive to your advances."
Most AFCs that I know and, even myself back in the day, think that just because a girl looks in your general direction that she's attracted to you or wants you. Not true.
Generally, the way to tell is how she breaks eye contact...remember, let her break it first, even if it's uncomfortable to hold it until she does so. If she breaks eye contact to the side or up, then she's more than likely not interested in you. However, if she breaks eye contact down, then she's taking a more submissive position because she's ready for you to be aggressive towards her. That's the flashing neon sign that says approach me, approach me.
I've approached women that have done both and have found that the ones that break down, tend to be more receptive and are 'easier' to Game because they most likely want you to talk with them. The ones that break to the side or up, are more difficult to Game because they're not all that receptive to your presence. Understand that you can still build attraction, but it'll probably be a little harder.
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by Guest » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:36 pm
[QUOTE=Bull Run;34662]Generally, the way to tell is how she breaks eye contact...remember, let her break it first, even if it's uncomfortable to hold it until she does so. If she breaks eye contact to the side or up, then she's more than likely not interested in you. However, if she breaks eye contact down, then she's taking a more submissive position because she's ready for you to be aggressive towards her. That's the flashing neon sign that says approach me, approach me.[/QUOTE]
I haven't heard this advice before but I like it a lot. I've noticed some of this but I'm definitely gonna have to keep a closer eye on it now.
Also, another reason for this is AA. Girls have AA as bad as most AFC's. A lot of them back it up with "Well, it's his job to talk to me anyway!" Or something to that extent. I'm sure all of you have heard a woman that really wants to talk to a guy but can't get up the nerve.
I haven't heard this advice before but I like it a lot. I've noticed some of this but I'm definitely gonna have to keep a closer eye on it now.
Also, another reason for this is AA. Girls have AA as bad as most AFC's. A lot of them back it up with "Well, it's his job to talk to me anyway!" Or something to that extent. I'm sure all of you have heard a woman that really wants to talk to a guy but can't get up the nerve.
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by Guest » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:43 pm
[QUOTE=Bull Run;34662]Girls will almost always break eye contact with you first. The reason for this is two-fold: 1) you are the aggressor, so she's not going to stare you down and 2) she's going to use the WAY she breaks eye contact with you as an indicator as to whether or not you should or have permission to approach. Permission is a bad word, more like the "go ahead, I'll be receptive to your advances."
Most AFCs that I know and, even myself back in the day, think that just because a girl looks in your general direction that she's attracted to you or wants you. Not true.
Generally, the way to tell is how she breaks eye contact...remember, let her break it first, even if it's uncomfortable to hold it until she does so. If she breaks eye contact to the side or up, then she's more than likely not interested in you. However, if she breaks eye contact down, then she's taking a more submissive position because she's ready for you to be aggressive towards her. That's the flashing neon sign that says approach me, approach me.
I've approached women that have done both and have found that the ones that break down, tend to be more receptive and are 'easier' to Game because they most likely want you to talk with them. The ones that break to the side or up, are more difficult to Game because they're not all that receptive to your presence. Understand that you can still build attraction, but it'll probably be a little harder.[/QUOTE]
I have heard this too, but I think I also heard that if they break to the sides it could also potentially mean yes she's interested depending on how fast after you make eye contact with her. What's your position on that?
Most AFCs that I know and, even myself back in the day, think that just because a girl looks in your general direction that she's attracted to you or wants you. Not true.
Generally, the way to tell is how she breaks eye contact...remember, let her break it first, even if it's uncomfortable to hold it until she does so. If she breaks eye contact to the side or up, then she's more than likely not interested in you. However, if she breaks eye contact down, then she's taking a more submissive position because she's ready for you to be aggressive towards her. That's the flashing neon sign that says approach me, approach me.
I've approached women that have done both and have found that the ones that break down, tend to be more receptive and are 'easier' to Game because they most likely want you to talk with them. The ones that break to the side or up, are more difficult to Game because they're not all that receptive to your presence. Understand that you can still build attraction, but it'll probably be a little harder.[/QUOTE]
I have heard this too, but I think I also heard that if they break to the sides it could also potentially mean yes she's interested depending on how fast after you make eye contact with her. What's your position on that?
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by Guest » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:20 pm
[QUOTE=Finesse;34666]I have heard this too, but I think I also heard that if they break to the sides it could also potentially mean yes she's interested depending on how fast after you make eye contact with her. What's your position on that?[/QUOTE]
Obviously, I'm not living in a woman's head, but there are literally a million things that could have drawn her attention. I would say that breaking to the side is the most neutral way of breaking eye contact, I wouldn't say that she's not interested but I wouldn't say she is interested.
Usually, in this case, if they bring their eyes back to you I would say that she's at least interested enough to look back in your direction but I wouldn't say it tells you one way or the other.
As with anything, there is some gray area. I would say if they break down, then approach. If they break up, then next her (unless you want a challenge). And, if they break to the side then she still might have interest so it probably wouldn't hurt to approach.
Then again, what does it matter what her eyes are doing? If you want to approach her, then by all means do so. If we waited for open invitations from women, we'd probably never approach anyone.
I usually only use cues from eye contact when I'm in set. In this case, the same rules apply. They're usually almost instantaneous and are usually pretty accurate.
Obviously, I'm not living in a woman's head, but there are literally a million things that could have drawn her attention. I would say that breaking to the side is the most neutral way of breaking eye contact, I wouldn't say that she's not interested but I wouldn't say she is interested.
Usually, in this case, if they bring their eyes back to you I would say that she's at least interested enough to look back in your direction but I wouldn't say it tells you one way or the other.
As with anything, there is some gray area. I would say if they break down, then approach. If they break up, then next her (unless you want a challenge). And, if they break to the side then she still might have interest so it probably wouldn't hurt to approach.
Then again, what does it matter what her eyes are doing? If you want to approach her, then by all means do so. If we waited for open invitations from women, we'd probably never approach anyone.
I usually only use cues from eye contact when I'm in set. In this case, the same rules apply. They're usually almost instantaneous and are usually pretty accurate.
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by Guest » Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:19 am
That is a good explanation by Bull Run. I have something to add.
In NLP there are patterns to eye movements that can help you to tell what part of her brain she is accessing. If she looks down and to her right it means she is accessing the kinasthetic part of her brain. (Under the assumption she is a normally organized person, as opposed to reverse organized where her kinasthetic would be on the left side.)
If she were to look down and to the right, one could proceed under the assumption that she was checking in with her feelings about you, or that she was attracted by your baseline attraction.
In NLP there are patterns to eye movements that can help you to tell what part of her brain she is accessing. If she looks down and to her right it means she is accessing the kinasthetic part of her brain. (Under the assumption she is a normally organized person, as opposed to reverse organized where her kinasthetic would be on the left side.)
If she were to look down and to the right, one could proceed under the assumption that she was checking in with her feelings about you, or that she was attracted by your baseline attraction.
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by Guest » Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:13 am
I have really found this to be random as hell in my experience. I do think the ones that look up are usually feeling somewhat cocky tho and adjust what I do *i.e. be somewhat of a dick until I can find her softer side*
I think to the side is usually more of a neutral stance. She is wondering where you are going to go next or not sure if she likes you or not yet.
I have had ones that look in all directions work. If you really too nervous to approach just wave at her. If she waves back then there is your invitation.
I think to the side is usually more of a neutral stance. She is wondering where you are going to go next or not sure if she likes you or not yet.
I have had ones that look in all directions work. If you really too nervous to approach just wave at her. If she waves back then there is your invitation.
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