The guys in her social circle

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The guys in her social circle

Postby Guest » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:21 am

Alright, a little background on who I am.
I am 5'7" and weigh roughly 130 lbs, and may even be shorter, I haven't measured my height recently.
So I am small.
I wouldn't say I am fit but I am healthy.
Probably need to start working out.
I think girls in general think I am really cute, but not hot, and I believe the difference between cute and hot to girls is hot is like one night standish and cute is like relationshipish...but the reason I think that is a dif story.
So it is no secret that attractive girls hang out with attractive guys.
The more attractive the girl, the more attractive the guys she will hang out with.
[b]The above assumptions are just my rational thinking and maybe it is a stereotype so correct me if I am wrong please.[/b]
I don't know if this is inner game stuff, a limiting belief, or something else, but my concern is how am I, 5'7" 130 lb guy, supposed to compete(for a girl) with another guy, or guys, that is let's say 185 lbs 6'3" and muscular.


When I am in the field I will open any girl.
I have kind of strayed from mixed sets which I want to start to open soon, but I really have no worries in the field.
It's when I go home and imagine all these scenarios of me #closing a girl, day 2 her, etc. that I start to worry.
Like I know attraction can be built, and I know the attractive guys in her social circle are likely to be in the friend zone, but even if I build attraction, after a couple of "dates", or whatever the community calls them, won't she look at me and then look at the attractive males in her social circle and be inclined to ditch me for someone more physically attractive?

I guess if this is a limiting belief it would be something like "Women don't want me because I am short and they are shallow."
Idk.
What do you think?
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Postby Guest » Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:57 am

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my concern is how am I, 5'7" 130 lb guy, supposed to compete(for a girl) with another guy, or guys, that is let's say 185 lbs 6'3" and muscular.[/quote1238416826]

Use your personality to your advantageis the first thing I would do! Who the fuck cares what the competition looks like. Some girls care about size, while other girls don't. I don't have hair on my head and I don't worry about the guys who do. Some chics dont find bald guys sexy, other think its super hot. So find a girl that thinks your "size" is sexy. Be comfortable with who you are......its that inner game stuff!

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won't she look at me and then look at the attractive males in her social circle and be inclined to ditch me for someone more physically attractive?[/quote1238416826]

I think girls are less likely to do this than guys. The key to women is building enough mental attraction. You keep that mental attraction strong and you'll keep them around.

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I guess if this is a limiting belief it would be something like "Women don't want me because I am short and they are shallow."
Idk.
What do you think?
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If thats truly what you believe, then ask yourself this question.........Do you really want shallow women who just care about looks?

Its pretty common for average people to attract average people, but it doesn't mean a average or even below average guy can't attract a super hottie. I'll never forget the 380lb, 5'9" bubba I saw that had 2 - HB9's on his arms at a Mavs game one time. I looked at him and thought......if that fat bastard can pull that talent, I surely can.
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Postby Guest » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:01 am

If you want muscles get 2 the gym and be willing to invest the time and hard work it takes.

Also, that famous kat named "Mystery" supposedly gets all sorts of hot girls right? He isn't exactly what I would call "physically attractive"! He's ugly and a little on the thin side. Must be his personality and knowledge that carries the day for him????
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Postby Guest » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:58 am

So it's not always going to be the case of "the more attractive the girl, the shallower she is going to be"?
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Postby Guest » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:42 pm

UL, I think you just have some inner game issues that you need to patch up. If you have made it on one or more dates with her, she obviously has attraction for you. This is just going back to the "does looks matter" topic which has been beaten to death on here and every other pua forum. Below are links to mASF...

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[link=hyperlink url][/link] [link=http://fastseduction.com/guide/08_Related_Articles/iranian.shtml]Iranian from hell[/link]

and mixed sets are the easiest in my opinion.
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Postby Guest » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:52 pm

The rules of what an attractive girl will want are meaningless. Yes in general hotter girls are generally going to want hotter dudes, but women also have a type and things they look for that doesn't necessarily follow what you'd expect... and you don't really know what the type is until you make the effort.
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Postby Guest » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:10 pm

This is all 100% inner game issues...limiting beliefs (to me) fall under the inner game category too.

First, you need to understand that not all girls find an Affliction wearing muscle bound meat head attractive. Just like men, women have specific tastes. Also, women aren't going to base their friendships off of a male's physical features. To assume hot girls only hang out with Abercrombie models and willl only date Abercrombie models is so closed minded that I'm honestly surprised you're able to open at all. If you really feel like this, what are you doing in set? Are you a performer? Method actor? Surely you aren't coming across as a genuine high self-esteemed man. You are looking down on yourself as if you are a frail little child.

Sit down in a quiet room and analyze what you think about yourself. Honestly. Are you okay being small framed? If not, weight train. You can't do anything about your height, and I'd strongly recommend staying away from platform shoes (giggle). You can (and will) be a real man...dripping with value and worth for all around you to absorb...and that isn't going to be based on your height/mass. Do you know why you feel girls think you're just "cute" and not "sexy" ??? Because you think you are just cute and not sexy. You're gonna have to handle this in your head...not in the head of a hot girl.
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Postby Guest » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:20 pm

A few weeks ago I was at a concert with the LTR and when I was on the way to the bathroom I passed by a chick I used to nail.

This girl was one of my first conquests after I entered the Community, and up to that point was one of the hottest chicks I'd ever pulled. Anyway, she was there draped all over the arm of some dude. They very clearly were together. I got a good look at this guy and I was like HOLY FUCKING SHIT this dude was a straight up STUD man (I know this sounds gay, but it's the truth).

The guy honestly reminded me of a slightly shorter, more muscular version of Tom Brady.

It fucking floored me man, really it did. I mean, he and I had a vag in common. Of course, I was jamming her well before he was...but, whatever.

The point is that I'm a whole lot closer to Tom Arnold than I'm to Tom Brady. He and I shared a few of the same features, not sure if he had a huge dick like me but I digress.

This is not the first time this has happened, it will not be the last.

The point is that you cannot judge yourself against anyone else out there. The fact is that looks do matter, but only if you let them matter to you.
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Postby Guest » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:36 pm

Smirks, I actually just thought of this concern last night.
I mean it could have been in the deep in the back of my mind the whole time, but it emerged last night when I was looking at one of my friends(attractive female) myspace pictures and noticed a lot of her friends are "Abercrombie model" type guys.
I believe I am confident and calm in set, but may have tooi high of energy at times.
I think I do just fine in sets, like I said I just thought of thought concern last night.
But as quickly as it has emerged you guys have extinguished it!
Thank you!
You guys rock!
:D
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Postby Guest » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:41 pm

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A few weeks ago I was at a concert with the LTR and when I was on the way to the bathroom I passed by a chick I used to nail.

This girl was one of my first conquests after I entered the Community, and up to that point was one of the hottest chicks I'd ever pulled. Anyway, she was there draped all over the arm of some dude. They very clearly were together. I got a good look at this guy and I was like HOLY FUCKING SHIT this dude was a straight up STUD man (I know this sounds gay, but it's the truth).

The guy honestly reminded me of a slightly shorter, more muscular version of Tom Brady.

It fucking floored me man, really it did. I mean, he and I had a vag in common. Of course, I was jamming her well before he was...but, whatever.

The point is that I'm a whole lot closer to Tom Arnold than I'm to Tom Brady. He and I shared a few of the same features, not sure if he had a huge dick like me but I digress.

This is not the first time this has happened, it will not be the last.

The point is that you cannot judge yourself against anyone else out there. The fact is that looks do matter, but only if you let them matter to you.
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damn, another BR reality check.

Here's a fun game for you...go to a gay bar. Go see what its like to be a hit on, constantly offered sex, and then you'll know what its like to be a woman. The attractive ones endure constant harassment and douchebagdom from guys with weak game...the attractive ones get fucked because its the best option they have.

Now, when someone like us enter the equation and effectively convey our brilliance and ability to entertain concepts aside from fucking the chick in front of us, we earn their respect. This is another reason why I prefer day game, I feel like I have a chance when the sun is out, and I enter the set with intentions other than laying pipe immediately. I'm not out here to constantly fuck...I'm here to make friends first and foremost.
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