[blockquote] You haven't even sarged with half of the guys on here, how would you know how good they are? Come on man, be reasonable, and quit attacking people for no reason. [/blockquote]
Obviously I can't judge the skill of everyone on this board. Clearly there are some guys on here who have great ability, but there are also some who, in my opinion, are just deluded or keyboard jockies. I'm not going to name names, but I think you know that. You've said similar things in the past to people and so have many others on this board. And some people on here have posted things attacking me, so isn't it a bit hypocritical to only call me out for responding to such attacks?
[blockquote]I've talked to on phone, and as I recall after you posted personal information about my friends and myself. When we spoke I said something to you along the lines of if you show your face in the DFW area it wouldn't be a pretty sight for your self. [/blockquote]
Well I actually never had a problem with you until you called me. In fact, I enjoyed the times we went out. But when you called you were very rude and even threatned me. Which I can even understand because you thought I had done something to you...But then when you found out that it wasn't me, you didn't bother to appologize? Of course you probably won't ever do this because you're too busy trying to be what you think "alpha" is. By the way, I wasn't talking about you either. I might not like you (please understand I don't dislike you much at all actually, it's just that I think it was rude for you not to appolgize after you learned I wasn't the one who posted those things), but I do acknowledge you have respectable pick up skills.
[blockquote]Speaking of that its about to be spring time do you want to be part of the spring cleaning process or part of a great group of guys whom which all of us can have a great time. That could also include you.[/blockquote]
Oh come on! Every effort I've made to be a part of this group has been met with snide insults, condesending comments about my social & pick up skills, and other forms of hostility. Even right below your post some guy that I've never even met is running around trying to threaten me. It would be nice if we could all get along had have a great community that would draw from all of our skills, but when I came back, trying to be friendly, people started making hostile remarks right away.
[blockquote]I would agree wih you guys, but I've got my own beef with westfall. if he doesnt' "weed himself out" like you say then i'll run some behaviorism up his ass my own way once we have the pleasure of meeting in person.[/blockquote]
What's all this about you wanting the pleasure of meeting me in person so you can run something up my ass? I mean I don't have anything against people who choose your lifestyle, but it's just not my cup of tea.
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by Guest » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:26 pm
[quote1236011261=Westfall]
[blockquote] You haven't even sarged with half of the guys on here, how would you know how good they are? Come on man, be reasonable, and quit attacking people for no reason. [/blockquote]
Obviously I can't judge the skill of everyone on this board. Clearly there are some guys on here who have great ability, but there are also some who, in my opinion, are just deluded or keyboard jockies. I'm not going to name names, but I think you know that. You've said similar things in the past to people and so have many others on this board. And some people on here have posted things attacking me, so isn't it a bit hypocritical to only call me out for responding to such attacks?[/quote1236011261]
Agreed. We do have some keyboard jockeys, but they don't post nearly as much as they have in the past. And, they aren't nearly as numerous as you might think. And, keep in mind that there is a healthy mix of 18+ guys on here that post a lot but you don't see out because they can't get in the venues we're attending. They do their own thing, so I wouldn't describe them as jockeys. We also have a handful of groups that do their own thing: Howie, Fenix, Neuro, Matrix, just to name a few.
And, there are guys on here that think they're a lot better than they truly are. But, for the most part, they're still good...just not great. Shit, I might even say that virtually everyone on here isn't nearly as good as they think. But, that's human nature. Attribution error. You tend to think your successes are due to your skill, while your failures are due to some external factor. This place is no different.
In the past, WF, you've had a falling out with Finesse and El Fenix. I'm not sure over what, but that was in the past. Leave it there. Yes, you have been censored in the past. Yes, you have been attacked in the past. But, you brought a healthy amount of that on yourself. You tend to stir up shit, I'm not sure if it's intentional or not, but you do stir the shit. I think you're aware of this, so when people respond, you shouldn't be too shocked...especially in this community.
Yes, it is a bit hypocritical. But, in this case, you earned my 'call out.' No one earned your call out from your initial post. You've haven't been here in a year, so how would you know how good our members have become? Further, how would you know who is and is not legit? You don't. Your comment was definitely not founded in reality and, in this case, was meant to stir up some shit.
Arguing like this is doing nothing bad making the boards unattractive and harms the credibility of our board as well as its members. More specifically, me, you, and anyone else that's involved in this retarded discussion. Let's stop bickering about petty stuff like this and move on.
WF, drop the chip. Everyone else give him a chance to redeem himself. Grimm, you're probably the only guy justified to be as angry as you with him. So, hate away.
[blockquote] You haven't even sarged with half of the guys on here, how would you know how good they are? Come on man, be reasonable, and quit attacking people for no reason. [/blockquote]
Obviously I can't judge the skill of everyone on this board. Clearly there are some guys on here who have great ability, but there are also some who, in my opinion, are just deluded or keyboard jockies. I'm not going to name names, but I think you know that. You've said similar things in the past to people and so have many others on this board. And some people on here have posted things attacking me, so isn't it a bit hypocritical to only call me out for responding to such attacks?[/quote1236011261]
Agreed. We do have some keyboard jockeys, but they don't post nearly as much as they have in the past. And, they aren't nearly as numerous as you might think. And, keep in mind that there is a healthy mix of 18+ guys on here that post a lot but you don't see out because they can't get in the venues we're attending. They do their own thing, so I wouldn't describe them as jockeys. We also have a handful of groups that do their own thing: Howie, Fenix, Neuro, Matrix, just to name a few.
And, there are guys on here that think they're a lot better than they truly are. But, for the most part, they're still good...just not great. Shit, I might even say that virtually everyone on here isn't nearly as good as they think. But, that's human nature. Attribution error. You tend to think your successes are due to your skill, while your failures are due to some external factor. This place is no different.
In the past, WF, you've had a falling out with Finesse and El Fenix. I'm not sure over what, but that was in the past. Leave it there. Yes, you have been censored in the past. Yes, you have been attacked in the past. But, you brought a healthy amount of that on yourself. You tend to stir up shit, I'm not sure if it's intentional or not, but you do stir the shit. I think you're aware of this, so when people respond, you shouldn't be too shocked...especially in this community.
Yes, it is a bit hypocritical. But, in this case, you earned my 'call out.' No one earned your call out from your initial post. You've haven't been here in a year, so how would you know how good our members have become? Further, how would you know who is and is not legit? You don't. Your comment was definitely not founded in reality and, in this case, was meant to stir up some shit.
Arguing like this is doing nothing bad making the boards unattractive and harms the credibility of our board as well as its members. More specifically, me, you, and anyone else that's involved in this retarded discussion. Let's stop bickering about petty stuff like this and move on.
WF, drop the chip. Everyone else give him a chance to redeem himself. Grimm, you're probably the only guy justified to be as angry as you with him. So, hate away.
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by Guest » Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:31 pm
I'm going to issue a rather bold series of statements, but feel 100% confident that not only are they pretty damn accurate, but they are also points that will be agreed upon by those you are lashing out at.
First, I'd like to address you and/or your ex-comdrade (Dubya) posting the [b]PERSONAL INFORMATION[/b] of myself and a few others on CraigsList under bullshit adverts for furniture and what not. I'll accept that you might not have been the one to click the post key, but you damn sure had something to do with it. This, even without taking in to account all the other stunts you've pulled, shit you've talked, persons you've pissed off, etc etc...is absolutely (in my mind) grounds for everything (and more) that you have gotten in the past year or so. The words issued to you by PicturePerfect the day we called you weren't crossing any line...because you and your cohorts destroyed that line while the two of us were sleeping that Saturday.
As far as I'm concerned...the promise made to you in that phone call lives true with me. Remember that.
Next, let's review whether or not I believe you have any right to pass judgment on the skills of any member of this board. What I have witnessed you do in social situations as "pickup" and what you preach across this board (not so much this one as up until recently you understood that you were not welcome) are not pickup skills at all, they are merely actions of ass-hatery. Yes. You sir are nothing more than an Ass Hat in my book. You gain attention in social situations by going against any and every norm you can possibly think of (I'm not even referring to the pedo thing either...Finesse made a good enough point on that.) If you had any respect for yourself, you would actually be as embarrassed of your actions as we have all been at some point in time. You say that you make all these attempts to be apart of the community here...that's a lie. At least over the past year or so. You've done nothing but challenge each and every one of us (head on in many cases) to try to one-up us, attempt to prove your dominance over us, or just make yourself feel better at some point you think you're making and winning. Many here have attempted to help you, offer you advice, and invite you to events. Remember, you DID eat with the lot of us at Hooter's prior to El Topo's 1st talk. That was a select-invite dinner.
If you want to continue down the path you are currently on and challenge us in failed attempts to pretend that you're better than us over the internet, go right ahead. I'd prefer you do it on the other board (where I think you're still welcome...hard to burn bridges on an inactive board.) You will not come on here and try to belittle the advice, knowledge, skill, and reputation of the members on this board. I'll agree with you that we have some KJs...but honestly, they are easy to pick out. One recently requested to have all his posts removed from the board...boy will we missed that cross-posted link fest. All useless members work them self out...like I thought you did soon after the aftermath of the split.
I could go on, but I'll give priority to the Chinese food that was just delivered. I'm sure I'll have some glorious retort waiting for me in a few hours...super. If the Mods would prefer we take this to PM, by all means send it to me that way. My point has been made, my point is clear. Grow up, cut your loses, and go silent.
First, I'd like to address you and/or your ex-comdrade (Dubya) posting the [b]PERSONAL INFORMATION[/b] of myself and a few others on CraigsList under bullshit adverts for furniture and what not. I'll accept that you might not have been the one to click the post key, but you damn sure had something to do with it. This, even without taking in to account all the other stunts you've pulled, shit you've talked, persons you've pissed off, etc etc...is absolutely (in my mind) grounds for everything (and more) that you have gotten in the past year or so. The words issued to you by PicturePerfect the day we called you weren't crossing any line...because you and your cohorts destroyed that line while the two of us were sleeping that Saturday.
As far as I'm concerned...the promise made to you in that phone call lives true with me. Remember that.
Next, let's review whether or not I believe you have any right to pass judgment on the skills of any member of this board. What I have witnessed you do in social situations as "pickup" and what you preach across this board (not so much this one as up until recently you understood that you were not welcome) are not pickup skills at all, they are merely actions of ass-hatery. Yes. You sir are nothing more than an Ass Hat in my book. You gain attention in social situations by going against any and every norm you can possibly think of (I'm not even referring to the pedo thing either...Finesse made a good enough point on that.) If you had any respect for yourself, you would actually be as embarrassed of your actions as we have all been at some point in time. You say that you make all these attempts to be apart of the community here...that's a lie. At least over the past year or so. You've done nothing but challenge each and every one of us (head on in many cases) to try to one-up us, attempt to prove your dominance over us, or just make yourself feel better at some point you think you're making and winning. Many here have attempted to help you, offer you advice, and invite you to events. Remember, you DID eat with the lot of us at Hooter's prior to El Topo's 1st talk. That was a select-invite dinner.
If you want to continue down the path you are currently on and challenge us in failed attempts to pretend that you're better than us over the internet, go right ahead. I'd prefer you do it on the other board (where I think you're still welcome...hard to burn bridges on an inactive board.) You will not come on here and try to belittle the advice, knowledge, skill, and reputation of the members on this board. I'll agree with you that we have some KJs...but honestly, they are easy to pick out. One recently requested to have all his posts removed from the board...boy will we missed that cross-posted link fest. All useless members work them self out...like I thought you did soon after the aftermath of the split.
I could go on, but I'll give priority to the Chinese food that was just delivered. I'm sure I'll have some glorious retort waiting for me in a few hours...super. If the Mods would prefer we take this to PM, by all means send it to me that way. My point has been made, my point is clear. Grow up, cut your loses, and go silent.
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by Guest » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:28 am
[blockquote]Arguing like this is doing nothing bad making the boards unattractive and harms the credibility of our board as well as its members. More specifically, me, you, and anyone else that's involved in this retarded discussion. Let's stop bickering about petty stuff like this and move on[/blockquote].
BR- You make some good points. I probably view myself though the lens of attribution error as well. Also, as I've said before I'm willing to let the past go and move on without the hostilities I have with anyone on here, provided they too are willing to do the same. Unfortunately, some are not to that point yet.
[blockquote]It's time to admit, and not to us necessarily, defeat and goto work on your self.[/blockquote]
I'm not sure how to take your posts, but I think that underneath the attempts at DLVing me,I believe you when you say you don't have ill-will towards me, perhaps you guinuinely trying to be helpful to me and if that is the case, I appericate it even if I don't entirely agree with what you are saying. And I have none to you either. I think if you're honest with yourself you will admit you don't have enough information to determine if I am evolving or not. I do, however, feel that my skill is adaquate (of course I still want to grow, as I do in all aspects of life).
And I don't feel defeated. I think that is part of the problem here. It isn't me vs you guys, at least not in my mind. It isn't win/lose and there doesn't have to be a villian or someone to fight against. It's amazing what can be acomplished when people work towards mutual success rather than at destroying one another.
[blockquote]As far as I'm concerned...the promise made to you in that phone call lives true with me. Remember that.
Next, let's review whether or not I believe you have any right to pass judgment on the skills of any member of this board. What I have witnessed you do in social situations as "pickup" and what you preach across this board (not so much this one as up until recently you understood that you were not welcome) are not pickup skills at all, they are merely actions of ass-hatery. Yes. You sir are nothing more than an Ass Hat in my book.[/blockquote]
1- I showed my face in dallas just fine this past weekend.
2- I see you're still bitter at me over something someone else did to you. Get over it.
[blockquote]I'm not getting in to a war of words with you you pathetic little bitch. You know what's coming to you. [/blockquote]
That's right you're not going to get into a war of words with me. Because you know that if you were foolish enough to do so, the battleground would look like alphabet soup, litered with letters--the broken remains of your so called word army. And as the sun set on the battlefield the few mono-syllabic words that survied would lie next to the disemvoweled (HAHA, get it?, disemVOWELed...lol, I'm fucking hillarious!) comrads and cry out, "ALAS, GRIMM, WHY DID YOU SEND US TO FIGHT A WAR YOU KNEW WE COULD NOT WIN!"
Let it be known, if it's a war of words you want, I will not hesitate to open up a thesaurus on your ass...
BR- You make some good points. I probably view myself though the lens of attribution error as well. Also, as I've said before I'm willing to let the past go and move on without the hostilities I have with anyone on here, provided they too are willing to do the same. Unfortunately, some are not to that point yet.
[blockquote]It's time to admit, and not to us necessarily, defeat and goto work on your self.[/blockquote]
I'm not sure how to take your posts, but I think that underneath the attempts at DLVing me,I believe you when you say you don't have ill-will towards me, perhaps you guinuinely trying to be helpful to me and if that is the case, I appericate it even if I don't entirely agree with what you are saying. And I have none to you either. I think if you're honest with yourself you will admit you don't have enough information to determine if I am evolving or not. I do, however, feel that my skill is adaquate (of course I still want to grow, as I do in all aspects of life).
And I don't feel defeated. I think that is part of the problem here. It isn't me vs you guys, at least not in my mind. It isn't win/lose and there doesn't have to be a villian or someone to fight against. It's amazing what can be acomplished when people work towards mutual success rather than at destroying one another.
[blockquote]As far as I'm concerned...the promise made to you in that phone call lives true with me. Remember that.
Next, let's review whether or not I believe you have any right to pass judgment on the skills of any member of this board. What I have witnessed you do in social situations as "pickup" and what you preach across this board (not so much this one as up until recently you understood that you were not welcome) are not pickup skills at all, they are merely actions of ass-hatery. Yes. You sir are nothing more than an Ass Hat in my book.[/blockquote]
1- I showed my face in dallas just fine this past weekend.
2- I see you're still bitter at me over something someone else did to you. Get over it.
[blockquote]I'm not getting in to a war of words with you you pathetic little bitch. You know what's coming to you. [/blockquote]
That's right you're not going to get into a war of words with me. Because you know that if you were foolish enough to do so, the battleground would look like alphabet soup, litered with letters--the broken remains of your so called word army. And as the sun set on the battlefield the few mono-syllabic words that survied would lie next to the disemvoweled (HAHA, get it?, disemVOWELed...lol, I'm fucking hillarious!) comrads and cry out, "ALAS, GRIMM, WHY DID YOU SEND US TO FIGHT A WAR YOU KNEW WE COULD NOT WIN!"
Let it be known, if it's a war of words you want, I will not hesitate to open up a thesaurus on your ass...
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by Guest » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:46 am
[quote1236059049=Westfall]
[blockquote]As far as I'm concerned...the promise made to you in that phone call lives true with me. Remember that.
Next, let's review whether or not I believe you have any right to pass judgment on the skills of any member of this board. What I have witnessed you do in social situations as "pickup" and what you preach across this board (not so much this one as up until recently you understood that you were not welcome) are not pickup skills at all, they are merely actions of ass-hatery. Yes. You sir are nothing more than an Ass Hat in my book.[/blockquote]
1- I showed my face in dallas just fine this past weekend.
2- I see you're still bitter at me over something someone else did to you. Get over it.
[/quote1236059049]
1-I'm not searching all over the fucking metroplex for some thing I care so little about. Have your fun with other rejects of this board. Showing up to an event would be a bad idea.
2-Read the part of my post that addresses this. He might have clicked post, but I know damn well you had a hand in it.
I'll take your disregard of everything else that I typed to mean that you understand it's points.
[blockquote]As far as I'm concerned...the promise made to you in that phone call lives true with me. Remember that.
Next, let's review whether or not I believe you have any right to pass judgment on the skills of any member of this board. What I have witnessed you do in social situations as "pickup" and what you preach across this board (not so much this one as up until recently you understood that you were not welcome) are not pickup skills at all, they are merely actions of ass-hatery. Yes. You sir are nothing more than an Ass Hat in my book.[/blockquote]
1- I showed my face in dallas just fine this past weekend.
2- I see you're still bitter at me over something someone else did to you. Get over it.
[/quote1236059049]
1-I'm not searching all over the fucking metroplex for some thing I care so little about. Have your fun with other rejects of this board. Showing up to an event would be a bad idea.
2-Read the part of my post that addresses this. He might have clicked post, but I know damn well you had a hand in it.
I'll take your disregard of everything else that I typed to mean that you understand it's points.
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by Guest » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:40 am
[blockquote]1-I'm not searching all over the fucking metroplex for some thing I care so little about. Have your fun with other rejects of this board. Showing up to an event would be a bad idea.[/blockquote]
I like how you claim to care so little about this, yet at the same time you seem eager to resort to violence to me over something someone else did to you over a year ago. I hope you do a better job of covering up incongruencies like this when you're trying to get in a girl's pants... they can detect that shit and it will blow you out.
Just trying to help you out, bro.
[blockquote]2-Read the part of my post that addresses this. He might have clicked post, but I know damn well you had a hand in it.[/blockquote]
Get over it.
I like how you claim to care so little about this, yet at the same time you seem eager to resort to violence to me over something someone else did to you over a year ago. I hope you do a better job of covering up incongruencies like this when you're trying to get in a girl's pants... they can detect that shit and it will blow you out.
Just trying to help you out, bro.
[blockquote]2-Read the part of my post that addresses this. He might have clicked post, but I know damn well you had a hand in it.[/blockquote]
Get over it.
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by Guest » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:36 pm
Westfall, just say that you wont be who you used to be anymore, then stop. You dont have to be the big man and present a comeback to everything that is said to you.
From what i hear, most people look like they will let you back in if you just go from a 10 to 2. No one is perfect, and people understand that. Just do better to not piss anyone off.
I have nothing agenst you and nor should i. I dont think i have read any of your posts and i have never really spoken to you. I have found this post pretty intertaining. Now its starting to drag out. Though i would like to say again, stop now with explaining yourself and your actions then dont get anyone mad as you did before.
Like UL said, chief up, and chill out broski!
From what i hear, most people look like they will let you back in if you just go from a 10 to 2. No one is perfect, and people understand that. Just do better to not piss anyone off.
I have nothing agenst you and nor should i. I dont think i have read any of your posts and i have never really spoken to you. I have found this post pretty intertaining. Now its starting to drag out. Though i would like to say again, stop now with explaining yourself and your actions then dont get anyone mad as you did before.
Like UL said, chief up, and chill out broski!
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