Day Gaming....Opening....

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Okay, first thing I should mention is my life lately has been devoted predominantly to my work. PU has taken a backseat because I don't have time. Basically, I'm putting in some sacrafice at work right now because it'll benifit me in the long term. But it has had a kind of negative effect on my game.

Before this onslaught of work, I basically had my game down to an easy format. It revolved around going out at night to clubs and bars. It revolved around creating vast social networks of people from which to attract women from. I would never open. Or, more accurately, never formally open. I would be introduced to people, or meeting people would just somehow happen unconsiously and organically. I really can't describe it. I never bothered with opinion openers or any of that other stuff (I still needed stacked materials of DHV's).

Now because of work, this mode cannot work for me anymore, because I can't go out at night like I used to. Essentially, I'm starting from scratch -- level one. The only time I have now for girls is to go out in the day only a few times a month. I'm trying to come up with a new way of operating. Gone are all the familiar old social connections. I'm charting new waters, and it involves two things I never used to do before: sarging in the daytime, and opening.

When I first started off with PU, I set moderate goals for myself. First I just wanted to meet new people and make friends. Then the goal became to make-out with at least 6 women. Eventually I upped the ante a bit, have sex with 6 women. Day game is a lot tougher than that, though. For now, I'm just trying to open girls and have meaningful conversations. I'm not even worried about getting numbers.

It's been tough, because I get super overcome by AA, moreso than I would at a club or bar where the energy is high. Anyway, here's a few of the things I've learned early on in the game:

1) Whenever I start out on day game, it's difficult to open anyone, because I'm too scared. The more I get rejected, or wait around doing nothing, the harder it is to open.

2) The more I succeed, the easier it becomes to open.

3) Basically, I need be averaging at more successes than faliures to be in a confiedent emotional state where I can function. The more positive reponses I get, the easier it is for me to operate.

4) A polite brush off has little to no negative effect on me, but mean, condescending or snotty ones do.

5) In order to get in the swing of things, I usually make my first target someone who I am positive will reject me. If I see the rejection coming right off the bat, I feel better about it. The other day I noticed, when I went out with this mentality, I was able to approach without any anxiety, because I already knew I was going to fail, and so things actually went positive for me.

6) I keep my openers memorized. Whatever routine that follows after that can and should be improvised, but I feel like the opening line should always be planned and planned well. No flubbed lines, or you're sunk from the outset.

7) Speaking clearly and loudly is key.

8) Smiling is also very important.

9) Knowing when to walk away is key. In fact, it's better to walk away with dignity intact than to wait for the airplane to crash before ejecting the cockpit.

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how do you open? i go direct usually

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5) In order to get in the swing of things, I usually make my first target someone who I am positive will reject me. If I see the rejection coming right off the bat, I feel better about it. The other day I noticed, when I went out with this mentality, I was able to approach without any anxiety, because I already knew I was going to fail, and so things actually went positive for me.


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Interesting concept there.

I have always believe momentum is key. So maybe you should make your first approach the girl who will NOT reject you. Then build off that into better and better girls.

This is how I would do it.

Even to this day a rejection from a girl still bothers me to some degree.

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[b]Sweet: [/b]right now I'm doing little opinion openers until I can figure out something that suits my personality better.

[b]player: [/b]I usually spot 2 or 3 targets at a time and quickly decide which one I'd vibe with best. Since my first opening is probbly going to suck, I always go with the one who I was sure was going to blow me out anyway. Last time I did this, the girl was actually receptive, and I think it's because I went in there with low expectations. Made me genuinley not care, and made me more comfortable with the situation. It also made it easier to approach more throughout the day. Rejection sucks but I can trick myself psychologically if I deliberately set mself up for it. It's like I'm controlling the situation or something. I should probably play around and take your advice too.