"Danger Josh: Most girls who like direct shit like this have/had/crave a strong father figure, and they just respond to it over timid stuff. Recognize and calibrate."
I have just started seeing a daddy's girl and the relationship is still in the initial stages, but thanks for pointing this out. I'm usually pretty careful with the direct stuff. I'll push it and see what kind of response I get.
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Categorizing Women: a rambling session...
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by Guest » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:05 pm
Smirks, if your goal was simply to argue, I believe you succeeded. I wasnt aware that there was arguable content in the message. the 1st 2 situations were merely examples that have numerous possible outcomes, I didnt need my gramar corrected or proofreading. There are suggestible lessons in the examples themselves, mainly for the newbies in understanding thought process' of women.
Now when you say categorizing women is a personal thing, I believe it really is only personal in reference to the 1-10# scale. I believe and experience holds true that women do have types
Now when you say categorizing women is a personal thing, I believe it really is only personal in reference to the 1-10# scale. I believe and experience holds true that women do have types
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by Guest » Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:22 pm
I have pretty relevant questions in regards to how you guys categorize a woman.
1) Within what amount do you guys mostly find yourselves categorizing a women? 5 seconds? 10 minutes? Third date?
2) What exactly are you using for this categorization? Non-verbal communication? Verbal? Both? And what do you look for in each part of communication that puts her in the category?
3) If a girl seems to respond to only a certain type of gaming (i.e. Direct or Indirect) do you give her what she wants? If she wants direct, do you give her a little then sort of take it away?
4) What are the most important things to calibrate when you have categorized a girl? and how do you calibrate?
These are all things I'm trying to learn, any input on one or all of the above questions would be greatly appreciated.
1) Within what amount do you guys mostly find yourselves categorizing a women? 5 seconds? 10 minutes? Third date?
2) What exactly are you using for this categorization? Non-verbal communication? Verbal? Both? And what do you look for in each part of communication that puts her in the category?
3) If a girl seems to respond to only a certain type of gaming (i.e. Direct or Indirect) do you give her what she wants? If she wants direct, do you give her a little then sort of take it away?
4) What are the most important things to calibrate when you have categorized a girl? and how do you calibrate?
These are all things I'm trying to learn, any input on one or all of the above questions would be greatly appreciated.
- Guest
by Guest » Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:03 pm
[quote1228352551=Skepsis]
I have pretty relevant questions in regards to how you guys categorize a woman.
1) Within what amount do you guys mostly find yourselves categorizing a women? 5 seconds? 10 minutes? Third date?
2) What exactly are you using for this categorization? Non-verbal communication? Verbal? Both? And what do you look for in each part of communication that puts her in the category?
3) If a girl seems to respond to only a certain type of gaming (i.e. Direct or Indirect) do you give her what she wants? If she wants direct, do you give her a little then sort of take it away?
4) What are the most important things to calibrate when you have categorized a girl? and how do you calibrate?
These are all things I'm trying to learn, any input on one or all of the above questions would be greatly appreciated.
[/quote1228352551]
Brilliant questions I will post my responses later.
I have pretty relevant questions in regards to how you guys categorize a woman.
1) Within what amount do you guys mostly find yourselves categorizing a women? 5 seconds? 10 minutes? Third date?
2) What exactly are you using for this categorization? Non-verbal communication? Verbal? Both? And what do you look for in each part of communication that puts her in the category?
3) If a girl seems to respond to only a certain type of gaming (i.e. Direct or Indirect) do you give her what she wants? If she wants direct, do you give her a little then sort of take it away?
4) What are the most important things to calibrate when you have categorized a girl? and how do you calibrate?
These are all things I'm trying to learn, any input on one or all of the above questions would be greatly appreciated.
[/quote1228352551]
Brilliant questions I will post my responses later.
- Guest
by Guest » Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:15 pm
I believe skepsis put better direction on my rambling. Those are the questions I meant to ask with my last paragraph on the thread starter. Can't wait to see your responses welsh.
If a girl wants/ needs direct or indirect gaming then you should not pussyfoot around. Game is, in a nutshell, the tactics u use to get laid. If you want to close the girl then u need to game her the way she needs to be gamed. Makes life much more simple. Elation used to tell me that you can get a girl to the point that she thinks she's gaming you and sit back and enjoy the ride!
If a girl wants/ needs direct or indirect gaming then you should not pussyfoot around. Game is, in a nutshell, the tactics u use to get laid. If you want to close the girl then u need to game her the way she needs to be gamed. Makes life much more simple. Elation used to tell me that you can get a girl to the point that she thinks she's gaming you and sit back and enjoy the ride!
- Guest
by Guest » Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:42 pm
[quote1228354065=Skepsis]
I have pretty relevant questions in regards to how you guys categorize a woman.
1) Within what amount do you guys mostly find yourselves categorizing a women? 5 seconds? 10 minutes? Third date?
[/quote1228354065]
Well, for me, I'm not the 5-second rule type of guy. I can do a lot of homework from afar (in a non-creepy manner.) I'll watch a girl interact w/ others, body language, and most of all I wait for eye contact flirting. LOVE LOVE LOVE me some eye flirting from across the bar. Watching a chick for like 5 minutes there about can give me a good idea of how to approach her situation. If I had to do it without homework, I'd wager that maybe a 10 min conversation would be enough time to fully calibrate to most of her social boundaries...pure guesstimation...just not how I work.
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2) What exactly are you using for this categorization? Non-verbal communication? Verbal? Both? And what do you look for in each part of communication that puts her in the category?
[/quote]
Like (I believe) Howie said earlier, actions speak louder than words. For a socially strong and most likely a woman who is comfortable with her sexuality, look for alpha-chick behavior. Others looking to her for approval, leading her chick posse, slow/confident/open body language. When you speak to her, projects her voice...isn't afraid to disagree with you, shit tests EARLY in the convo, etc etc.
[quote]
3) If a girl seems to respond to only a certain type of gaming (i.e. Direct or Indirect) do you give her what she wants? If she wants direct, do you give her a little then sort of take it away?
[/quote]
Push and pull drives so much of what successful guys do. You give her direct, but you also take it away and focus elsewhere. You don't go back and forth between direct/indirect if one isn't working...that would be counter-productive.
[quote]
4) What are the most important things to calibrate when you have categorized a girl? and how do you calibrate?
[/quote]
Energy level, tonality, holding the frame but not being TOO strong/weak-framed, mind your body language, speed at which you escalate, and most importantly of all...if she's...how do I say it...accepting your presence? Not the best use of words, but I think it gets the point across. Some times a chick just doesn't want you around for whatever reason.
I have pretty relevant questions in regards to how you guys categorize a woman.
1) Within what amount do you guys mostly find yourselves categorizing a women? 5 seconds? 10 minutes? Third date?
[/quote1228354065]
Well, for me, I'm not the 5-second rule type of guy. I can do a lot of homework from afar (in a non-creepy manner.) I'll watch a girl interact w/ others, body language, and most of all I wait for eye contact flirting. LOVE LOVE LOVE me some eye flirting from across the bar. Watching a chick for like 5 minutes there about can give me a good idea of how to approach her situation. If I had to do it without homework, I'd wager that maybe a 10 min conversation would be enough time to fully calibrate to most of her social boundaries...pure guesstimation...just not how I work.
[quote]
2) What exactly are you using for this categorization? Non-verbal communication? Verbal? Both? And what do you look for in each part of communication that puts her in the category?
[/quote]
Like (I believe) Howie said earlier, actions speak louder than words. For a socially strong and most likely a woman who is comfortable with her sexuality, look for alpha-chick behavior. Others looking to her for approval, leading her chick posse, slow/confident/open body language. When you speak to her, projects her voice...isn't afraid to disagree with you, shit tests EARLY in the convo, etc etc.
[quote]
3) If a girl seems to respond to only a certain type of gaming (i.e. Direct or Indirect) do you give her what she wants? If she wants direct, do you give her a little then sort of take it away?
[/quote]
Push and pull drives so much of what successful guys do. You give her direct, but you also take it away and focus elsewhere. You don't go back and forth between direct/indirect if one isn't working...that would be counter-productive.
[quote]
4) What are the most important things to calibrate when you have categorized a girl? and how do you calibrate?
[/quote]
Energy level, tonality, holding the frame but not being TOO strong/weak-framed, mind your body language, speed at which you escalate, and most importantly of all...if she's...how do I say it...accepting your presence? Not the best use of words, but I think it gets the point across. Some times a chick just doesn't want you around for whatever reason.
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