Review: Tim's Flawless Natural Method (why Dallas Lair kicks so much ass)

[Guest]

OK someone posted about this new dvd series a couple weeks ago... the ad seemed way overhyped but I figured if it's half as good as the hype it might be worth it and I can always send it back (which I'm going to).

The most interesting thing I found about this DVD is that it's a compliment to the guys on this site and their approach. I'd say the core of the material is stuff you've seen covered here (that I haven't really seen elsewhere) by Bull Run, Finesse and some of the other guys here.

The four concepts the series covers are what Tim calls Whoo, Core Intent, Bubble of Love and 10 to 2.

Whoo mainly involves getting yourself in the right mindset and energy level to start socializing and to let people know you're a fun guy. Core Intent is very similar to Bull Run's recent posts about being the leader in the interaction and basically showing the woman you're a real man. Bubble of Love is Tim's term for framing and he doesn't go into near the depth that Finesse does it's basically an introduction. 10 to 2 is mainly just the rhythm of what you're doing over the course of the night to build up to getting her home.

Some of the interesting things about this set I thought were:

* Pretty much no system at all as far as any systemized approach, attraction/comfort phases, etc. It's all about just meeting the girl with the right amount of energy, being a leader and setting the right frames and that's it.
* Physical contact - Tim's approach is to get physical right away. The longer you take to start establishing physical contact, the creepier it gets when you do do it... and the contact should be strong, leading contact like putting your arm around a girl not half assed occasionally reaching out and touching her just to do it. He gave a few of his 'moves' as far as what he likes to do when establishing contact.
* Persistance - He doesn't believe in bouncing or giving in to token resistance... unless the girl is just really, obviously a bitch or totally not into you whatsoever he wants you to keep pushing through those things... mainly by reframing the resistance to your advantage until she gives into your frame
* Direct - Tim's style is pretty direct and some of the stuff was straight out of recent posts here... sometimes he does go indirect the main example he gave was on basically the super hotties who get approached all the time... but in general his approach is direct

So yeah, basically what the guys have been telling you here is tim's approach.. have good energy, be confident, be a leader, be a real man -- frame the interaction in a way that lets her visualize the two of you together in her mind. That's pretty much the series right there.

[Guest]

Nice. I think all this stuff becomes far more useful than say MM when not in bars/clubs.

Where was the post by Bull Run, btw?

[Guest]

Look in the tactics section I think they've been reposted there

[Guest]

Justice i wasn't aware of this product, i'm gonna can give it a listen. Here's some stuff that has helped me personally with natural game etc.

Vin di Carlo - dating diablo, whatever the one with escallation ladder is again.
Swingcat - (whatever the ebook is called)
Gambler - Natural Gamer
Juggler - the juggler method
Sean messanger - audio courses

other reading by non puas but just as good:

Eckart Tolle - Power of Now
Secrets of Sexual Body Language - Martin Lloyd
Conversationally Speaking - Alan Garner
Messages - Matthew McKay
How to be funny - Stanley Lyndon

and finally, while controversial and possibly complete bullshit, i believe it's helped me:

MindFit's hypnosis mp3's on approach anxiety and confidence, also there is one for inner game.

[Guest]

Grimm, I'm reading the Power of Now at the moment :) thanks for the recommendations

[Guest]

dicarlo has new book called the attraction code that is very good

[Guest]

i've watched about 5 minutes of this, i can tell already that this guy is a major, major pimp. good find man.

[Guest]

where do u all get these sources from?

[Guest]

those are things that i've read as i've felt the need to improve different aspects of my own game.

[Guest]

I agree with everything that people posted on this thread. The most success with women that I had is when I have dropped canned material and just started using my personality(actually started pulling). But what I did want to ask is how is that Vin Di Carlo's stuff? Is it helpful?