I don't think anyone here has the answers. I know the current christian church doen't have the right answer either. Like 60% divorce rate within the Christian Community.
Welsh_Dragon... I understand Alphagame. He may sound pissed and has an attitude about women... but I think he was hurt. And he is right... Most of us here are the Nice Guys.
In my neighorhood alone, I know of 7 couples whose marriage is on the rocks and spouse who has cheated.
Last week, One of my best friend just found out his wife of 15 years was cheating on him with a neighbor.
PUA is great, but it will never answer the question about how to have a successful LTR.
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Nice guys finish last? (repost:thanks to Matrix Method)
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by Guest » Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:14 pm
[quote1215886368=Imager]
PUA is great, but it will never answer the question about how to have a successful LTR.
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???, i'm not sure if that's what you meant to really say is it?
actually if people focus on the right aspects of the community and not magic panty dropper openers, it's EXACTLY what leads to succesful LTRs
PUA is great, but it will never answer the question about how to have a successful LTR.
[/quote1215886368]
???, i'm not sure if that's what you meant to really say is it?
actually if people focus on the right aspects of the community and not magic panty dropper openers, it's EXACTLY what leads to succesful LTRs
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by Guest » Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:32 pm
TopDog,
I think there is a lot of good thought on women being figured out by the community, but by and large, the stuff in the community is focused on seducing women, not on how to keep them around, keep them happy and most importantly, keep them loyal.
Honestly, I don't really think that keeping a woman happy will keep them honest. I'd love to believe that, but seriously, keeping a woman happy is an impossible task. They tend to manufacture drama where none exists.
I think there is a lot of good thought on women being figured out by the community, but by and large, the stuff in the community is focused on seducing women, not on how to keep them around, keep them happy and most importantly, keep them loyal.
Honestly, I don't really think that keeping a woman happy will keep them honest. I'd love to believe that, but seriously, keeping a woman happy is an impossible task. They tend to manufacture drama where none exists.
- Guest
by Guest » Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:23 pm
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TopDog,
I think there is a lot of good thought on women being figured out by the community, but by and large, the stuff in the community is focused on seducing women, not on how to keep them around, keep them happy and most importantly, keep them loyal.
Honestly, I don't really think that keeping a woman happy will keep them honest. I'd love to believe that, but seriously, keeping a woman happy is an impossible task. They tend to manufacture drama where none exists.
[/quote1215889741]
really? Have you ever explored the relationship board at mASF? tons of great info there going back YEARS on LTRs and application of community principals..
If you move past the initial interaction material(that unfortunately too many people just focus on): openers, peacocking, and routines, the bulk of the community is centered around becoming a stronger, more confident, all around better man that leads and does not let the woman beta him. You may need to draw the parallels and see how that is applicable in a relationship... The same thing that, at the core leads to attraction in the PU phase, is the same stuff the leads to a women staying happy in a relationship. The problem is, too many guys can let themselves get betaized once in an LTR. That's when they lose attraction and screw around and walk all over you.
I agree with you, the pure 'seduction stuff' won't help in an LTR, but that really just scratches the surface of what you can get out of the community.
TopDog,
I think there is a lot of good thought on women being figured out by the community, but by and large, the stuff in the community is focused on seducing women, not on how to keep them around, keep them happy and most importantly, keep them loyal.
Honestly, I don't really think that keeping a woman happy will keep them honest. I'd love to believe that, but seriously, keeping a woman happy is an impossible task. They tend to manufacture drama where none exists.
[/quote1215889741]
really? Have you ever explored the relationship board at mASF? tons of great info there going back YEARS on LTRs and application of community principals..
If you move past the initial interaction material(that unfortunately too many people just focus on): openers, peacocking, and routines, the bulk of the community is centered around becoming a stronger, more confident, all around better man that leads and does not let the woman beta him. You may need to draw the parallels and see how that is applicable in a relationship... The same thing that, at the core leads to attraction in the PU phase, is the same stuff the leads to a women staying happy in a relationship. The problem is, too many guys can let themselves get betaized once in an LTR. That's when they lose attraction and screw around and walk all over you.
I agree with you, the pure 'seduction stuff' won't help in an LTR, but that really just scratches the surface of what you can get out of the community.
- Guest
by Guest » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:56 pm
I have referenced the mASF boards and in particular the relationship board many many times in posts to this very forum over the years. TopDog - fully agree. Kwagmire documented his whole wife cheating, getting caught and him divorcing her. Fantastic reading.
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by Guest » Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:19 am
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I have referenced the mASF boards and in particular the relationship board many many times in posts to this very forum over the years. TopDog - fully agree. Kwagmire documented his whole wife cheating, getting caught and him divorcing her. Fantastic reading.
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side note:
i don't follow that as close as I once did, but for those interested, one of THE top quality posters for relationship is zarathustra_fi (Franco). i believe he has downloadable archive.(yes, just confirmed) he is also a ebook author, specifically on community principals and application to LTRs specifically for those looking for more info on that specific topic.
I have referenced the mASF boards and in particular the relationship board many many times in posts to this very forum over the years. TopDog - fully agree. Kwagmire documented his whole wife cheating, getting caught and him divorcing her. Fantastic reading.
[/quote1215951352]
side note:
i don't follow that as close as I once did, but for those interested, one of THE top quality posters for relationship is zarathustra_fi (Franco). i believe he has downloadable archive.(yes, just confirmed) he is also a ebook author, specifically on community principals and application to LTRs specifically for those looking for more info on that specific topic.
- Guest
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