Text escalation

[Guest]

I requested this on the thread for the next pickup class, but thought I'd go ahead and get your ideas on this.

I'm starting to get numbers and have been texting women and just trying different things for practice but i still don't know what the hell i'm doing.

for ex. I've been texting back and forth with the chick from sat night and finally asked her if she is easily offended and she said no. so my respons was
"I think U have a nice ass!....but that's not what made me want to talk to you"
(she hasn't responded so far)

I had asked her earlier if she wanted to know what made me talk to her and she said yes................and then i responded with " I think I should make you wait untile tomorrow" and she said "What??Why????"

just trying to be playful and teasing.

Anyway my whole point is that I'd like any suggestions on how you guys get a new girl to come over to your house or meet you or at least escalate the flirting in a sexual direction. and is there a certain point that you should call instead?

Thanks,

[Guest]

Well you might have blown yourself out there. Only time will tell on that one. But if you were both going back and forth via text and then all the sudden she didn't respond there is a good chance you did. The crazy thing is you might try that exact line on the next girl via text and it works like a charm.

What I would do is go ahead and send her another message that says...

Ahh clearly you are easily offended. I will go ahead and delete your number.

Now with that statement there is a chance you are closing the door on her. She knows it...you better know it. I have had that open the door for me so many times. The girl all the sudden thinks...hrmm he is willing to delete my number over that...wow...I find him attractive all the sudden. I don't know why it works or if that is the reason but it has worked almost every time for me. Maybe I had more comfort/attraction/rapport built not sure.

As far as getting a girl over usually you either have to find the whores(unfortunately there are a lot of them) or build up a sexual attraction. The best thing you can do over text is be playful/fun. What really sucks is a lot of girls are not going to help you out with this. You will have to really coerce them into playing along. With some girls it just flys off the hook and is super easy. They provide just as much fun/playful banter and you feed off each other.

As far as a time to call...well I only call if the girl just downright insists. And even then I might just text anyways to take the frame.

When I number close I always ask: Should I call or text.

This is important because some girls don't recieve texts. Yes some girls just can't afford it. Very rare. But anyways I have gotten laid because a girl said no fucking way call me don't text. I called the next day and bam was shagging her that night.

Most people I know don't call but I won't say anything bad about it. If you are a good talker then go for it. I am somewhat lousy at keeping a conversation flowing so I choose to text well over 95% of the time. Once I have shagged a girl then calling is just fine. I have a natural friend who does text some but mainly calls. He always leaves a message when it goes to VM. Make sure you leave a message. I am pretty sure everyone hates it when someone calls you and they don't leave a message.

Speaking of which. Until you have slept with a girl just understand that you are gonig to run into so many flakes if you are getting a lot of numbers. I don't know how to phrase this correctly and this might come off sounding incorrect. But until you have slept with a girl she basically owes you nothing. And with a lot of them that is exactly what you will get in response to your calls/texts. It's to the point now that I don't even text half the numbers I get. I know they will flake and I just delete them the next day outta my phone.

[Guest]

Thanks playercool. Your advice is always good.


One question............do you thing I should just start getting a ton of numbers...........or just get them from the ones that i really like and that show a lot of interest?

[Guest]

Who knows. Why don't you do this.

Get all the numbers you can. Then just start practicing text on all of them. Sure some will be complete duds and you get no response but who cares. You might really start figuring some awesome text game out.

I will sometimes be having a good night and land many numbers. If nothing else it boosts your confidence. I bet I even do it on purpose for that very reason.

Lately I have been so overly selective in number closes it is insane. I will say if you build up massive rapport your text game will be much easier with that girl.

For now I would say just experiment. Go out one night and see if you can land one girl. Then on another night land multiple numbers. Mix it up and see what happens. Who knows you might get lucky one night and meet 3 beautiful receptive girls.

[Guest]

Here's an example that will back up PC. On the night of the peacock event I got 8 numbers. On fucking fire that night! Chicks were asking me to take their number. It was nuts. Of those 8 numbers Im only playing 3 still. 5 of those chicks either came back as flake city, or just non responsive. One even told me she had a boyfriend and she just thougt I was interesting(kiss of death by the way). In this game I personally feel that is a numbers game(no pun intended). So unless your Lion, just get all the numbers you can and weed through em. GL!

[Guest]

ok thanks.........I responded to sat chick and she didn't reply so I deleted her #....sucks...but had to do it

then went ahead and deleted thursday girl who never responded to first text....

was kind of sad then I remembered a hot chick from last month that I had been texting that died off. Sent her a message and told her to come see me thursd night and she said she would........so i see it's nice to have other options.

[Guest]

Yeah it sucks but unless you delete their numbers you will have so many in your phone you will be like...who is this?

I don't know where I saw this or heard this but...I think it was Asian Playboy who will save a girls number for 6 months or something. Maybe not in his phone but on his computer or wherever. And he will just occasionally hit them up down the road. I guess the philosophy is maybe they are at a diff place in their life and more apt to talk to you. Sounds a little weird and creepy to me unless you had some really good rapport built. And if you had really good rapport built you prob would have shagged her.

[Guest]

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[Guest]

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When I number close I always ask: Should I call or text.
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I love this idea, I am gonna use it next time!

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Speaking of which. Until you have slept with a girl just understand that you are gonig to run into so many flakes if you are getting a lot of numbers. I don't know how to phrase this correctly and this might come off sounding incorrect. But until you have slept with a girl she basically owes you nothing. And with a lot of them that is exactly what you will get in response to your calls/texts. It's to the point now that I don't even text half the numbers I get. I know they will flake and I just delete them the next day outta my phone.
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I have had the same experience. I now have a feel for when a girl will be likely not to flake and have started putting forth more effort into each interaction. I try to talk for at least 20-30 mins and really connect well with them. Of course this is not always possible (usually due to friends who come in). Now I don't even try for the number if I think it will flake. I was out last Friday and had 2 sets that hooked really well but were cut off early by friends. I could have gone for the number by interrupting but since Stillwater is small, it is likely I will run into them again and then I can re-open.

[Guest]

[quote1212544250=Sal Paradise]I could have gone for the number by interrupting but since Stillwater is small, it is likely I will run into them again and then I can re-open.[/quote1212544250]

This is important to understand!!!!!

Even in a big city, you will more than likely run into a chick you've gamed again. I've f-closed at least 3 different girls that I met one night, gamed didn't close, then ran into on a different day. They reopened me too, which gives you so much power over the interaction.

Anyway, one chick I met in September of '07 THEN ran back into her in April of '08...about 6 months later she still remembered everything I said to her, everything about me...I remembered nothing, but I faked it. And, of course I f-closed her THAT night despite the fact that her friends were being HUGE cockblocks and the logistics were very, very poor. She obviously didn't want to wait another 6 months to get the chance to fuck me. Powerful shit man, powerful shit.

Always leave a set on a high note even if you didn't close, chances are they'll come back around. If not that night, some random night in the future. And, if you don't ever close them but run into them think about how much social proof they can give YOU if you left them in a good place.

The reverse is true. I met a chick once, gamed her, then got pissed and cut her down pretty badly because her friends wouldn't let me close her. She was in, but the logistics sucked and I didn't properly game the friends. It was my fault, but out of frustration I took it out on her. Something like 4 months later I ran into her again and she gave me so much shit that she essentially destroyed all my sets in the venue...everytime I opened and she saw it, she would tell my targets what kind of douche bag I was. I kind of deserved it, and it taught me a valuable lesson. Always leave with a smile on your face and with your chin up. Talk shit about them later if it makes you feel better.