Interesting 2-set HB7+HB9, strange outcome

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So I did a set that I found really interesting. This is gonna be detailed.

Was chilling with Silent, R***, and Z*** at Kush down on Fry Street yesterday night. We blow the first 2-set that sits across from us (they actually move away to another part of the place, lol) although Silent does good with the second 2-set that sits down next to us. We're just having fun while we're waiting for the place to fill up, messing with the waitress and manager, etc. It so happens that I had a deck of cards in my pocket, and we're just goofing around, so I show and teach the guys some of my best magic tricks. Silent is like, holy shit, that's crazy... so why the fuck are you showing us and not them?!?

For some reason I never really thought of using magic in PU, seeing as how I was interested in magic far before I picked this stuff up. It was just kind of a skill that sat in the back of my mind. I'm like, wow, I am a dumbass. Lets do this.

So we look around and spot a great 2-set, a HB7 and a HB9, that just came in. I also see a 4-set with a dude and 3 HB4-5s right next to the 2-set table. The empty seat at their table is closest to my target 2-set, which means my back will be facing the 2set but they'll still be able to see the 4-set's reactions. Perfect. So I go into the 4-set, keeping my back turned on my targets, and I did a pretty good performance of my best sleight. Silent is there DHVing me all the way, saying stuff like "holy shit this stuff is off the wall, you guys are gonna love this"... thanks dude, it all helped. So my pawn 4-set was really into it, I chatted with them for a little bit before excusing myself and standing up. I make like I'm going back to our table, but then look around and "spot" the 2-set. HB9 was going to be my target. I step up to them and, cards in hand, ask, "You guys wanna see something?".

They were already looking at me and both say "yes!!" in unison, very quickly. Awesome. I give a false time constraint (in fact I give several throughout the course of the interaction) and I do a mind-blowing rendition of the same trick. They play along perfectly (the trick itself is pretty absurd, and I've tweaked it so it's more interactive and fun for the participants. Come to think of it it's a really great DHV and an excuse to kino as well.) HB9's eyes get saucer-sized, HB7's jaw drops and she starts handing me a bunch of IOIs. Now usually at this point, people will ask for another trick. They didn't do that, which surprised me. So I just bullshit about some stuff, do the best friends test and 5-questions game on HB7 (I had her yelling "**** is the most awesome guy ever and I love him!" really really loudly because I won the game and that was the reward... it was pretty cool). So it was going well.

And here's my first question. The thing is, I noticed that while HB7 was very warm and responsive, HB9 seemed to have something in her ass. She was cold even as I played perfect Mystery Method A2, negging her subtly and making both her and her friend laugh at her expense, paying more attention to the friend while throwing little pebbles back at her, etc. She was cold in the beginning even as I was doing the trick, and she gave me shitty body language the entire time. Although she was laughing at my negs and pebbles and I had some pretty good playful kino with her, she seemed to be actively blocking me out, almost like she didn't want to be attracted to me. So it turned out that HB7 was really into me while HB9 my target was not! At one point HB9 started fiddling on her phone and told me that she was texting her boyfriend. I didn't react, but after it was over I wondered what I did wrong that I completely reversed who was supposed to be attracted to me! What do you think? Just because she's got the boyfriend, or something else?

Second question. These girls were very, very passive. They didn't ever start a thread on their own about anything. They never asked "so what's your name?" "do you go here?" and other stuff like that, even though HB7 was very, very into me. HB9 was even worse - she only had one-word answers for everything, and when she started laughing at my stuff she stopped quickly, like she was forcing herself to stop or something. It seems to me that I was either stuck at A2 (which is hard with so much DHV) or maybe they saw me as the dancing monkey... Either way, I was forced to keep it flowing, which I did pretty well, but it was annoying all the same. This was like 5-10 minutes in, too...

Final question: Eventually I number-close the HB7. I didn't even bother trying for the HB9. I went back to our table and over the next few hours Silent said that she was looking over the entire time. He suggested that we bounce her but I just wanted to day2 it since the HB9 obstacle would make it tricky. It turned out that Silent was right after all, because today when I texted her it said the number didn't exist!! I tried calling instead and I got the voicemail of what I think was some random family home phone. the fuck?!

My guess is either A. I didn't build enough comfort to get a real number, or B. I was the dancing monkey. I thought I played it fairly well, but apparently not! The fake number bothers me the most.

I smoked too much hookah and I've had a headache the entire day today. But I'm not gonna forget about this until I figure out where I went wrong.

[Guest]

I know it sucks but understand there are some rude women out there. The HB9 might of been one of those types.

HB7 might have been into you but she felt some peer pressure from her friend. If it were another time another place you might have gotten a correct number. She might have felt compelled to give you a wrong number to look good in her friends eyes.

If the card trick stuff fits your personality then maybe it is ok to use. I have a feeling though they might have thought of you as the Dancing Monkey. I mean you did a card trick on them and on the table next to them. Maybe they thought you worked there??

Next time do exactly what you did but with the two set just open them without a trick. If they did indeed notice your trick they will ask you to do it. I think it will work much better that way. You can make it playful and be like nah I only perform one trick a night. Or something funny.

I never introduce myself. I wait for them to ask my name because then I know I have built some level of interest/attraction with them and can proceed accordingly. If they never asked your name then something was going wrong.

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I think that by carrying a deck of cards around that may come across as try hard from the word go. Also a little odd. Look at it from the chicks point of view, there is a dude walking around showing random strangers card tricks. Now, im not saying your tricks aint the doo doo but they may not want to be seen as the chicks that fell all over the 'dancing monkey', its just not 'cool'. Maybey instead of card tricks you could do magic with more comon objects, change, paper money, lighters, cigs, beer bottles ect. Also the magic tricks shouldnt be your opener, imo. Instead use a standard opener then, as if you just rememberd, ask if they want to see a trick you just learned today.(have a reason for how you learned it in case they ask) Then, if they ask for another trick, do something third grade( wad up a napkin and make it 'disapear' by tossing it over your shoulder). If you come across as that wierd guy doing magic all over a bar then the only thing they will want to disapear, is you.

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A lot of times girls like to go out and really don't want to be hit on by some guy. I wonder if you didn't encounter some of this. Yes you probably came across as interesting to them, but the HB9 has a boyfriend she's probably serious about and she knew what you were up to. Hot girls get hit on nonstop. And the HB7 was definitely under "social" pressure from the actions that HB9 was displaying.

I've also walked away from girls wondering........wow you have next to nothing for social gaming skills. Sometimes a display of non-interest can be traced back to shyness and its not always a lack of interest.

For the most part sounds like you were successful, just had the wrong girls.

The more I see of women the more I realize its so important to figure out which one is really into you before you start laying game out.

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Ya the two were interested
the HB 9 just looked like she had a bad day... who knows wt reason
but the other liked you the most
hb7 face with epic boobs
she was into you could have had instant date perfectly
but good job tho bro
move forward....
there's 3 billion other girls for us to game

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3 BILLION!

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minus the buffalo that smacked Lion....i'd steer clear of that one.

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2,999,999,999 left then!!

and i also heard alot of chicks are turning 18 this year
so damn we have more deer to poke around now!

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yup here's to the class of 2008!!!

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Haha one of these days I'll introduce you guys to my sister