Easy mental "trick" tailor made for PUAs

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[quote="Westfall"]Why do people feel the need to be deceptive & trick a girl into bed?[/quote]

Hmmm... on the surface I want to agree with you, however, what is the difference in playing some magic or mind reading trick or using "canned" material and you memorizing a bunch of one line zingers?

I mean really how much about any of us is really us? Any knowledge we may have about anything in life is usually taken from someone else in the form of reading what someone else wrote unless you're a researcher or scientist of some kind. I would agree that tricking a girl into thinking something was fate is a little different from playing a fun game with her. I'm not sure if you're criticizing this specific trick or fun and playful ones too?

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man I have to agree with both sides on this one. Yes being genuine is awesome. There is basically few things that I find in pickup to be as powerful as just being genuine. At the same time to say that you should not manipulate things to your advantage is dumb. Manipulation is one of the greatest tools as well. If you walk up to a group of girls and guys (mixed set) the way you deal with the guys will most likely involve you manipulating the social situation.

I mean thats all improving social skills is, learning how to manipulate and manage your social interactions. Card tricks and magic may be an advanced form of this but if it gets the job done and the guy is getting the results he wants who cares? If you are completely genuine and do well too then who cares?

Chances are though that even the guys saying they are completely genuine manipulate as well just not to the same level. I am sure you don't just walk up and say like hey i really want to bang you honestly? Also I live in a messy apartment and i would prefer a 3some. lol I mean even guys that are honest manipulate to some degree on what they disclose and the wording they choose.