Opps, did I just mess up your chances with that guy?

[Mojo]

Sometimes, I like using this line right after I blow out a guy (say it jokingly):

"Opps, did I just mess up your chances with that guy. He was really into you"


It's great! I am doing a few things here.

1st: I am acknowledging that the other guy was blown out by me, showing who is more alpha.

2nd: Communicating that I am not clueless as other guys for I can read body language.

3rd: Also acknowledging I "saved" her from a total AFC

4th: Provide great material to move the convo forward such as...
"He was obviously into you. Why did he walk away so easy?"
"No, I really think he was into you. Wait. Wait. Let me go get him back her" she holds onto my arm as to prevent me getting the AFC - kino on her part.

- Mojo

[Vector]

This is great. The more you push a girl toward a guy, the more she will resist and be attracted to you instead.

A related thing I have done a few times is, "we need to find a cute guy for you. Who is the cutest guy here, how about that one? No? How about that one? ..."

My theory is that they are deathly afraid of approaching (or having you approach on their behalf) because it would make them feel desperate. And they also hate the pre-approach acknowledgement that they are attracted to a guy. They will repeatedly say no... forever. They backwards rationalize that you're the most attractive guy in the room.

It also builds a bit of a "us versus them" conspiracy. Just a little.

[Welsh_Dragon]

Right on the money Vec. I know you've seen me do this sort of thing before and the girls absolutely eat it up.

I always pick the better looking guys and say "What about him? Or him. He looks like a typical down home Texas country boy sorta chap, etc..." (doesn't work in Fort Worth lol). These comments are said with a rye smile - basically you are building a frame. I noticed early on that Alpha girls (read: hot women) often try and use their looks to attract guys for their "less beautiful" friends. You will hear them say stuff like "Do you like him? I'll get his friend's attention so you can talk to him". You are setting the frame that YOU are the group Alpha and SHE is being "pawned" off, basically you are trying to hook her up. BECAUSE you are Alpha (in her eyes) she lets you get away with it and BOOM. Now you ARE Alpha.

Here is the funniest part of all. To shit test you they will occasionally try to open a hot guy (moving set usually) but because she is already into me it comes off stupid as she is not really trying. The guy determines it is a joke plus she is with me already so the guy blows her out (keeps walking right along into the crowd). Now she is totally in Beta frame and you have control (which is where she was hoping it would lead anyway). Even if the guy doesn't get the hint he is an easy AMOG. By not getting the "in joke" and reading BL he is Beta. Bringing people in and out of your set under your terms and conditions is golden.

This kind of shit is fucking central to my game. The cool thing about it is there is so much out there to use. Literally the possibilities are endless. This is where openers, canned material, etc... are no longer required.

One last thing. For the newbie this is best done in 1on1 play (I prefer that but you can get away with it in a group if done right). Don't try to embarrass her in a mean way, especially in front of the group. I know that point is belaboured and obvious but I see guys do it all the time. Also if you don't work this on the Alpha girl you are immediately screened out by any girl higher in the pecking order. Enough!

[Rhody]

I did something similar. I was reading a girl's palm. I looked into her eyes and said:
"Your past is boring, full of dull moments. But your future is full of excitement and intrigue. Very soon you will meet a man that you find very attractive and interesting. And he will lead you down a path of adventure."
Then I put my arm around her and said (with a wry smile, of course):
"Maybe it's that guy. We should go introduce you."
It worked well.