A Girl Here

[dottywine]

Hi

I'm a girl about to graduate from college now. I've been interested by pick-up since I was 16. I took a break from it to learn more about how to ignite a feminine confidence within myself.

I'm back into PUA because... after all the reading, meditation, and action I've taken, I find that I am understanding PUA advice on a different level. And I just view the world differently. With this shift, I'm really intrigued to read the community again.

I'm also on the PUA meet-up group we have here in Dallas. I only went out with those guys once, though.

[Smirks]

We've been infiltrated!

How long have you been in to this? You say since you were 16, but for all we know, you're 16 and a half.

I think it will be interesting to get a girl's PoV on some stuff. If you've been reading the material long enough, then I don't think you'll be offended by some of the ugly truths of the female psyche that gets discussed here from time to time.

Welcome.

Just don't run out and tell all of our secrets to the masses...OR ELSE.

[Bull Run]

Great. Can't men have ONE institution that is solely ours? Guess not, that would be unfair. Anyways, this is an open forum so having a twig and berries swinging from your groin is not required to sign up. Under those pretenses, welcome.

I suppose I don't understand how knowing Game can help a woman, unless, of course you're a lesbian or want to remain celebate for the rest of your life (understanding Game can help you identify and thus shut down any man's effective sexual overtures towards you). If you're learning Game so that you can get in the head of the enemy or it's just a casual curiosity that isn't going to really change how you act around men then fine, but understand that the more you know about how men actually seduce and attract women the less fulfilling it will be for you to be seduced by a man with a high social IQ. And, this is ultimately what men and women live for: men live to seduce a beautiful woman and to experience her feminine beauty and support, women live to be seduced by a worthy man and to be the object of his lust, passion, and love while being protected and led by him. I suppose if you have a roadpmap to seduction then you believe you can lead him where you want, but why would you want that? It takes all the excitement out of it...

I doubt there's much of anything you can incorporate from male Game into female Game because it's completely different with completely different dynamics and objectives. In fact, here's a dirty, little secret about female Game. There really is none outside of the following:

1. Be as hot as you can. If you're not a beauty then do what you can with what you have (learn to dress to suit your body, get a haircut that accentuates your facial features, nails, tan, learn how to put on make-up the RIGHT WAY...so many women don't get this one at all). Of course, get a gym membership and work out. Lift weights, don't just do cardio (unless you're really heavy, in which case do a lot of cardio then transition to weights). The hottest chicks in the gym are ALWAYS slinging iron. Don't rule out plastic surgery...i.e. breasts, lipo (for those stubborn areas), nose job, etc.
2. Dress provocatively enough to garner men's attention but not so provocatively that you're deemed a slut. Try to do your best to be trendy without dressing like every other fucking woman in the world. If you don't know what I mean, go to Uptown and you'll see that they all dress the same. Boring. Men will notice a woman that's dressed a little bit different from the rest of the group and they'll be way more interested in you.
3. Learn how to make your body language and other non-verbal cues project the idea that you're open to be approached. Women that don't get approached are the ones that project the 'leave me alone' vibe. Don't sit or stand in the corner, make eye contact, smile, open your body to the venue, try not to sit at a table, etc.
4. Honestly assess your sexual market value, then increase that value by 1 point (SMV is determined on a scale of 10)...these are the men that you should realistically be getting. If you're a 7, then the very best you can hope for is an 8. So, when you're approached by an 8 understand that this is your Prince Charming and be receptive and excited when he approaches. This is the BIGGEST mistake women make...thinking that they deserve a 10 when they're a 5. Holding out for a man that's outside of your SMV range will result in spinsterdom. Shit test accordingly, all worthy men have to pass your shit tests, it's only fair to you and him.
5. Learn how to flirt when the man is talking to you. Ask him questions, smile, turn and open your body to him, flip your hair, bite your lips, laugh at his jokes, and touch him when appropriate. Basically, act stupid and hang on his every word. As he gets the idea that you're into him, then start to establish that you're not a ditzy girl and have more to you than a pretty face.
6. Learn how to effectively fuck a man. No man with value and options is every going to stay with a woman that has no idea how to have sex and please him in bed. He's simply got too many options. Oddly enough, a man will stay with a 7 that is very skilled in the sack longer than he'll stay with a 9 that has no clue. This is the number 1 reason I next women, by far.
7. Understand that there is a difference between being sexy and hot. And, that being sexy will almost always beat being hot any day. Science has proven that women that sway their hips more from side to side when they walk have experienced more orgasms, stronger orgasms, and has a higher sex drive than women that don't sway their hips as much. The way a woman dances and moves when she walks will determine her sex appeal to men and men will always gravitate towards women with sex appeal (see point 6).
8. Last but not least, always stroke your man's ego. Let him lead, let him be a man and reward him when steps up to the plate.

As for a female POV, well I take all of that with a grain of salt. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the girl on my arm at the time talk about how 'Game tactics' would never work on her and her friends. I just smile and laugh to myself when I think about all the tactics and techniques I used to attract and seduce her. Women will never admit that they don't have nearly as much control over who they're attracted to as they like to believe they do. Further, they'll never admit that their gina's tingle when confronted with an aloof, confident, Alpha male that is pre-selected by and experienced with women. Women love players, they just don't want to played.

Smirks, you could walk up to a woman and give her every secret that we have and then you'll see that virtually every woman on the planet will still 'fall' for these secrets even though she knows them. The dirty secret is that our secrets are not secrets to women...they're wish lists. Women just don't want to hear that their sexual selection methodology isn't all that more sophisticated than it is with men. Women are just as shallow as men (in fact, more so). Game is a secret to beta and omega males, it is very well known by women.

Having said all of that, welcome and feel free to attend any meet-ups/seminars that we will have in the future.

See you in the scene.

[Smirks]

I think you're being a tad bit harsh on her appearance on this forum. You know me personally, B R, and you should probably remember that I have quite a few PLATONIC female friends. Well, every single one of them knew about my involvement in the community, and a couple even read some material. I've found that having a pivot who is knowledgeable in what you're doing is far more beneficial than using her for just a pretty face.

You're referring to the POV of a woman in a different type of relationship to you than I speak of. The difference of opinions you get between the two is definitely notable.

Retract your claws and be open to the opinion of a woman you've had zero influence over. If she turns out to be young and stupid, well it will be blatantly obvious. If she has intellect to share, well, you get the picture.

Our crew never really liked the idea of having platonic female friends...hell PC said it was impossible. If you can keep your dick in your pants, you'd be surprised what you can get out of it. At least I get something out of it.

Maybe my Mother didn't hug me enough.

[Bull Run]

No claws here man, just cutting to the point with the truth.

I'm completely and totally open to whatever it is that she has to share and whatever perspective she can and will provide. One tenant that I learned from Game is that you have to create a few stereotypical types of women and Game them accordingly (they all require something slightly different...a 23 year old will not respond the same way as a 30 year old single mom). It's a short cut to seduction and it's required and works because, in general, the stereotype is correct...which is the whole point. Now, one has to understand that not all women are like that. Not ALL 23 year olds will act like a 23 year old. Not ALL single moms will act like single moms. Thems just the facts bro.

I responded to her post as if she was just any other girl. Now, maybe she's not like all other women. But, that's for her to prove. One could argue that the mere fact that she's here as proof that she is in the NAWALT group.

Your experience with plutonic female friends has been well documented and you've learned a lot from them. My experience with plutonic female friends has been different in that they give horrible advice because they still cannot let go of these bullshit notions of what is and is not attractive in men and what is and is not appropriate behavior from men regarding women. It's become very clear to me that when a female friend is dispensing advice to me about another woman they're simply telling me the same shit that they foolishly believe because they don't want to admit that they're attracted to the exact type of guy that society demonizes (i.e. the player, the alpha male, the confident asshole, the jerk, etc.).

Having said that, if a woman has acknowledged that they like men that are aloof, confident, and don't make her the center of their life. That isn't a 'pushover,' as most women use commonly to describe a beta male. Then, her advice becomes more valid because she has allowed herself to acknowledge that she's not attracted to 'nice guys,' as is commonly claimed by women. The problem is that most women refuse to acknowledge that they actually like chasing after a man, they like not being the center of his attention, and they like it when he is a bit of an ass to her because when she does get his attention, when she is the center of his attention, and when he is nice and kind to her she KNOWS it's geniune and she knows he truly means it. The sweet is never as sweet without the sour. Good cannot exist without bad. Light doesn't exist without dark. Cock cannot exist with pussy...you get the idea.

[Smirks]

There's just a difference between a female that understands game and a female that knows about game.

Which side of the fence this one lands on will be obvious quickly. If she's the latter, then I'll be clicking the ban button!