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[Atlas]

So I met some girls on a night out. I go back with them to their apartment, and we end up playing N64, Mario Kart, which I actually enjoy playing. However, I wanted to hookup with one of the girls. The nontarget finally leaves, leaving myself and the desired girl alone to playing Mario Kart. We were both stone cold sober, and played a while and then just talked, but I couldn't find a natural non-creepy way to push the hookup. I figured a better strategy would be to "plant the seed" on this one, and ask her out again to a raging party where drinks and dancing will lead to a natural hookup.

Could I have done anything differently to go from the N64 to the bed on that night?

[Tribulus1000]

Escalation. You need to study and practice escalation. You should literally focus you attention on getting dates that allow you to concentrate on that area.

There are many many ways one can escalate. Do a search on mASF or even here.

These are things like:
The Almost Kiss, Mystery's Question Game and Kiss Close, Massages, statements like "this movie is better if we cuddle.", wrestling, pillow fights, arm wrestling, going caveman (picking girls up literally), spanking them, commanding them "sit over here!", SOI statements like (in your case) "If we weren't playing this game, I'd throw you down and fuck you right on the coffee table." or "If your roomate wasn't here, I'd fuck your brains out."', Eye gazing or triangular gazing,

There are so many of these.

A good number of these can start on a date or out at the bar on a first meeting. They include light kino to emphasize points in what you're saying and things like high fives and the trust test.

Another good thing to remember with escalation is the takeaway part. The taking away leads to wanting more and we do this BEFORE we get an objection.
For example, giving a massage and just as you notice her body relaxing and feeling good, you stop and ask "I need some water. Do you want a drink?"

T

[Atlas]

you are THE man. Thanks!

[the_devil]

It doesn't even sound like you kissed her and you were already thinking hookup? You wouldn't even have to proposition her if you just start small and work big (escalate in other words lol) You are going to run into resistance if you are gonna ask her to take on responsibility for sex, in general. There is all kinds of stuff to do to gain compliance sexually but kissing is a pretty good universal starting point. You want it to feel like it "just happened" from her point of view, she'll backward rationalize why she did sleep with you after.

Don't invest too much in trying to set it up for later. Still see her, but keep gaming other girls.

[RockStar]

These are things like:
The Almost Kiss, Mystery's Question Game and Kiss Close, Massages, statements like "this movie is better if we cuddle.", wrestling, pillow fights, arm wrestling, going caveman (picking girls up literally), spanking them, commanding them "sit over here!", SOI statements like (in your case) "If we weren't playing this game, I'd throw you down and fuck you right on the coffee table." or "If your roomate wasn't here, I'd fuck your brains out."', Eye gazing or triangular gazing,

thumb wrestling for kisses is my favorite. I always lose the first match and ask where she want's her kiss. It's usually on the cheek or some other 'safe' place and it escalates pretty fast from there.

-R

[Atlas]

It doesn't even sound like you kissed her and you were already thinking hookup? You wouldn't even have to proposition her if you just start small and work big (escalate in other words lol) You are going to run into resistance if you are gonna ask her to take on responsibility for sex, in general. There is all kinds of stuff to do to gain compliance sexually but kissing is a pretty good universal starting point. You want it to feel like it "just happened" from her point of view, she'll backward rationalize why she did sleep with you after.

Don't invest too much in trying to set it up for later. Still see her, but keep gaming other girls.

How about advice then on how to initiate a kiss given my situation

[the_devil]

I'm sorry man. I was trying to be helpful. The way you describe it it sounds like you could have just kissed her. I've done something like

Me: Hey, look at me for a sec.

she then looks at you curious

Her: What? (or can get no reply but if shes doing what you said your still good)

then you grab her by her chin and pull her face toward yours and kiss her or you can do the "push the hair behind the ear" bit, either will suffice. The girl obviously wanted to kiss you if you were in a room alone with her and she didn't get weird and allowed the situation to happen.

I've used the Mystery Method Kiss close bit too.

When you have isolation and are into report

Me: Hang on, do you want to kiss me?

There are one of three responses and I guess if she doesn't say anything there is a fourth

Her: Yes (then kiss her duhhh)

Her opt.2: No

Me response to opt.2: oh, ok it just looked like you wanted to

Her opt.3: Maybe?

Me response to opt.3: Lets find out (then kiss her anyway)

Her opt.4: (No response)(if you are getting IOIs then go for it)

If you are in isolation with me and you have a vagina, I know you are attracted and we're building report your getting kissed thats all there is to it. That is if I'm attracted to you lol.

The hookup will come after that with more touching (Kino) and report. You gotta kiss good and find erogenous zones after that to escalate to sex. If shes giving physical compliance but verbally not giving compliance just agree with her and continue physical escalation. "I am too young", "This is bad", or "We shouldn't be doing this". The main thing to keep in mind is to do you best to make it enjoyable for her. Never say unless you are pretty sure that she will agree anything like "wanna have sex". If she does cut you out be cool and build more report. Just back off with the physical stuff and build more report. I've never had a successful "freeze out" so I wouldn't recommend it.

Hope that is a little more helpful. I wasn't quite sure weather you were wanting advice with the hookup part or the kiss part so I just kind of did my best.