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Postby Pr0wler » Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:29 pm

isosceles cheese wrote:
Westfall wrote:
This is likely because you do not have enough value in her eyes... If Brad Pitt asked her over to his place at 3, do you think she would have made it? I would just punish her for not meeting you or if you want, Next her.
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big time motherfucking next.

I know I lack value in comparison to pretty much anyone else on earth, but its a bit disconcerting that I was so disrespectfully disregarded after solidifying the arrangement. I'm pretty much over the idea that I can have any choice what-so-ever with women. Apparently its just not going to happen for me.


Spoken like a true quitter...
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Postby Westfall » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:26 pm

isosceles cheese wrote:
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This is likely because you do not have enough value in her eyes... If Brad Pitt asked her over to his place at 3, do you think she would have made it? I would just punish her for not meeting you or if you want, Next her.
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big time motherfucking next.

I know I lack value in comparison to pretty much anyone else on earth, but its a bit disconcerting that I was so disrespectfully disregarded after solidifying the arrangement. I'm pretty much over the idea that I can have any choice what-so-ever with women. Apparently its just not going to happen for me.


Well with that type of self-view, you probably don't have a lot of value...

What can any man offer a woman? this was a question I asked a friend long before the community, and obviously at the time I didn't have very much of a sex life....well that's not entirely true, I had a great sex life, but no one to share it with.

As a confident man, you can offer a girl several things that she probably can't get from most guys.

Being in the community you are probably more sociable, and can help her meet new people...

You can also act as her emotional anchor being the pillar of unreactive calm when she is all worked up in a tissy...

And with your knowledge of PUA you can give her a wide range of emotions that she probably isnt getting from most guys....make them laugh, make them cry, make the cry some more....and then make their roommate move out on them reducing them to a puddle of tears...

And most of all, you can be fun.

Sure it looks like you cant have your choice of any woman right now....but do you have the abilty to become a guy who does??

I think you do, as anyone who has sought out the community has the potential to do that....

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Postby playercool » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:41 am

First thing you need to understand is there are some flaky people out there. Guys and girls alike.

If you are out in the field getting numbers you better damn well be prepared to get flaked on. I regularly delete numbers out of my phone. Get used to it. I know that sucks to hear but it is just the way it goes. You will get numbers. You will set dates. You will get flaked on. Just next their asses and go get another hotties number.

Second thing you need to understand is get that gay ass homo attitude outta your head right fucking now. Read that sentence about a hundred times.
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Postby El Fenix » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:59 am

playercool wrote:First thing you need to understand is there are some flaky people out there. Guys and girls alike.

If you are out in the field getting numbers you better damn well be prepared to get flaked on. I regularly delete numbers out of my phone. Get used to it. I know that sucks to hear but it is just the way it goes. You will get numbers. You will set dates. You will get flaked on. Just next their asses and go get another hotties number.

Second thing you need to understand is get that gay ass homo attitude outta your head right fucking now. Read that sentence about a hundred times.


Agreed, 100%
9 out of 10 women are replaceable, and interchangeable. Bring one in, send one out, doesnt matter really. When you have one of the rare ones, hang on to her, and appreciate what you have.
The rest of them...well...that's up to you. Short term pleasure is my thing currently with those. No B.S., no lies, just hot sweaty sex :)


Value man. If you dont think you have any, it will come across in many ways, and she WILL pick up on it.
There is a lag time in all of our self esteem vs abilities in any self improvement project. Your self view:confidence, and view of your abilities, takes a while to catch up to where you really are. It's often 1 step behind what you are really capable of.

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Make a list of your weaknesses, these keep you humble.


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Was I the same person I was before all that happened? YES. Did I have the same confidence in my true abilities, and strengths? NO.
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Postby isosceles cheese » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:25 am

playercool wrote:First thing you need to understand is there are some flaky people out there. Guys and girls alike.


yeah, but my record in the last 2 months is astoundingly bad, and not confidence inspiring. Its just getting worse and worse. I believe I'm 1 out of 32 approaches after saturday. My favorite was from Saturday night where 3 women told me, "we came over here to talk to your friend, not you." lol I get blown out every fucking time.
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Postby zine » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:36 am

man up... my gawd

Bad shit happens to everyone it's how a person deals with it that makes them truly great. I believe everyone is great at their core including you. The problem is we start becoming unrealistic and saying the world doesn't need us. The world is harder on us then everyone else, and excuse after excuse after excuse Fuck that. Are you saying that the universe made a mistake in borning you? No wonder you gettin fucked over you are saying that you are smarter then the universe. You have value to give that the world needs. Stop being a damn pussy and accept that fact. Embrace the part of you that's cool not the part of you that's all negative and complaining about how sucky life is that part needs to be bitch slapped...
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Postby isosceles cheese » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:11 am

Westfall wrote:As a confident man, you can offer a girl several things that she probably can't get from most guys.

Being in the community you are probably more sociable, and can help her meet new people...


Aside from some dude who can work a room and rock a 18" cock, I don't know what women are after aside from the text book "be the guy who everyone likes and wants to be!!!!"

Its kind of weird. Ever since I started doing this about 2 months ago, I've enjoyed each experience progressively less and less, and started enjoying hermit status more. Its like I've been socially moot and everything around me is a prop, not real, a game, and for some reason I can't manipulate them the way I'm supposed to. I keep pressing the buttons, and even when I respect and test the pattern, the buttons don't give the signal their supposed to.
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Postby playercool » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:00 am

When I started the year I kicked so much ass. I was a big pimp.

Then even though I got an insane amount of numbers I had dry spell of no new lays for over a month. I mean nothing. Then if anyone saw me at Republic Friday I pulled a pretty smoking hot blonde. I don't even like blondes so for me to say she was pretty hot...well you know.

So just realize this isn't some magic system that is going to get you any woman in the world. It is something that is going to help you get there. You need to incorporate this stuff into your personality.

DO NOT CHANGE WHO YOU ARE. Add to who you are. Make your game better because you know some stuff.

I know you feel like shit right now. Take a week off. Read some stuff then hit it next weekend. Go out and have a good time. Don't think you need to do this or that. Just treat it like you are going out and hanging with your boys. If something arises so be it. Don't think you need to go out and open 12 sets. Don't think you need to go out and even open one set. Just go out. Enjoy yourself. Fuck around with some people. Just be cocky/funny with ZERO intention. Hell don't even escalate anything. Just be chill and relaxed. Observe others around you. Observe your friends run sets. Just have a good time.
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Postby Kit » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:37 am

Player, I saw the blonde and yes she was hot. When you say you pulled her, what does that mean exactly?

Cheese, my personal feeling is that you've been reluctant to impliment much technique into your game because you feel it's being somewhat fake. If that's the case you're not going to change and your not going to suddenly start having success. If your game wasn't broken to begin with you wouldn't be here would you? Honestly, how much effort do you feel you've put into making adjustments to how you interact with women over the last month?

I should be putting at least twice the effort I have been. Some of these guys are reading, practicing in front of mirrors or with friends, writing journals, bringing note cards or whatever on a daily basis.

This weekend I had Grimm whispering in my ear exactly what I needed to be doing as I was doing it. It helped me tremendously. It's easier for someone else to see our mistakes while we are doing them than for us to realize what we are doing.

Every little thing like not leaning in when I approach or during set, having a strong body posture, not approaching with open body language, noticing when to keno or qualify or whatever makes a HUGE difference. It sounds crazy that the way you are standing can make or break you, but it's true.

I know you're a good guy. You know that. Why not make sure they know that.

It's like some people thinking I sound like an ass in my posts. In my mind I'm thinking fuck them if they are so serious, but the truth is it's my fault for not projecting my innerself better when I write. It is my responsibilty to show someone who I am instead of blaming them for not seeing it themselves.
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Postby Kit » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:47 am

isosceles cheese wrote:yeah, but my record in the last 2 months is astoundingly bad, and not confidence inspiring. Its just getting worse and worse. I believe I'm 1 out of 32 approaches after saturday. My favorite was from Saturday night where 3 women told me, "we came over here to talk to your friend, not you." lol I get blown out every fucking time.


Okay dude, did you forget when you and I blew out the guys that were buying the freaking hot girls shots? Would you have rather been us or them going home that night? I never said a word to the blonde you were talking to and before we walked off she said, "you guys are fun." This was the same blonde that let the guys that bought the shots stand there like dweebs ignoring them until they finally walked off. So she was a total bitch to them right? Was she a bitch to us? No. What was the difference? They walked behind them to the bar and bought shots. We fucking walked up to them like they were nothing special and we were the shit.

The example you gave was a set the girls opened on your friend? If so, why should they like you? What confidence did you demonstrate?

Maybe it's time you start wearing tighter t-shirts, haha.
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