Flaking

[JP2008]

True confidence is knowing that your personality alone is enough to attract women, and knowing you don't have to memorize a bunch of fake non-congruent routines, and reading every e-book & post on mASF (and reposting them all here)

Excellent point, now all I need is a personality....

JP

[Scoundrel]

So, you think it's a good idea to deal with flakes by becoming a flake yourself?

[JP2008]

Yes.

JP

[Bull Run]

So, you think it's a good idea to deal with flakes by becoming a flake yourself?

Not really. I'm just advocating a technique that you can use to display confidence, high value, and scarcity.

The way to deal with flakes is entirely different in my opinion.

Do me a favor, try it once. You'll be shocked at the results. Again, I think for it to work, as with anything else in PU, it has to be geniune. You can't make plans, then break them just so you can sit around the house and do nothing. Make plans, then break them to go and do something that you had already planned to do.

[Smirks]

Scoundrel! Where've you been??

[zine]

I like this it's a good idea really, and now that I think about it all the girls that I have flaked on have become the clingy ones. Only thing I really want to say about it is sure the technique probably works. I can almost guarantee that this works because I've seen it work multiple times in my own life. The thing is everyones life should be so interesting that this happens naturally. Do so many things that flaking on a girl just kind of happens randomly. This technique makes it look like you are a man with a life worth living and being a part of. Wouldn't it be even more powerful to actually be the man with a life worth living and being a part of?

Do me a favor, try it once. You'll be shocked at the results. Again, I think for it to work, as with anything else in PU, it has to be geniune. You can't make plans, then break them just so you can sit around the house and do nothing. Make plans, then break them to go and do something that you had already planned to do.

exactly

[Scoundrel]

IMHO If you're really busy then you may have to flake on a meet up. If that is the case you should call her as soon as you know. Anything else would be rude.

On the other hand, if you're only trying to LOOK busy... Am I missing something? Why would you flake on a girl that you could be spending time with that may lead to having sex?

[Bull Run]

IMHO If you're really busy then you may have to flake on a meet up. If that is the case you should call her as soon as you know. Anything else would be rude.

Agreed, if something comes up which causes you to flake on plans you intend to keep then you should call her as soon as you know. HOWEVER, I'm saying that you set up plans with her for the specific purpose of canceling them at a later date.

On the other hand, if you're only trying to LOOK busy... Am I missing something? Why would you flake on a girl that you could be spending time with that may lead to having sex?

Reread the original post, one of the steps I've outlined is to ensure that you actually are busy. It would be stupid to cancel on someone just so you could sit on your ass at home.

Seriously man, a lot of very legit guys on here have concurred with this technique (myself included). These guys have a lot of knowledge of the Game and are very successful out there, myself included. Give it a shot once. It's counter-intuitive BUT so are negs.

Once you give it a shot and it fails miserably then let's discuss the validity of the technique, until then you're just hypothesizing.

[Scoundrel]

I don't think it's counter-intuitive at all. I understand what's going, I just think it's a head game and I'm not into head games. If a chick pulled this shit on me I wouldn't call her again (I posted a way of dealing with this a while back) and I'd expect the same from her. I'm sure this would work on LSE girls, but I'm not into LSE girls. If that's your thing, enjoy.

PS
I feel the same about negs. Negs are designed to lower the girls self-esteem. I'm a high value man, I don't need to use them.

[Bull Run]

I don't think it's counter-intuitive at all. I understand what's going, I just think it's a head game and I'm not into head games. If a chick pulled this shit on me I wouldn't call her again (I posted a way of dealing with this a while back) and I'd expect the same from her. I'm sure this would work on LSE girls, but I'm not into LSE girls. If that's your thing, enjoy.

PS
I feel the same about negs. Negs are designed to lower the girls self-esteem. I'm a high value man, I don't need to use them.

Out of respect, I've taken this conversation offline.