El Topo Talk in Austin

[Finesse]

Per Valence of the Austin Lair:

http://www.theaustinsociety.com/profile.php?id=239

The triangle of pick-up

Skills
Inner Game
Lifestyle

Everything culminates in being a piece of the overall lifestyle. Learn the skills, get your confidence up, but you really need to life the lifestyle you want to be an overall complete package. Once these areas are achieved, these skills will carry over into every other aspect of your life.


EL TOPO method (Or referred as during the talk as ‘This is how I do it’)

Opener
Frame (Yourself)
DHV/Grounding
Frame/Cold Read
Qualifier


Opener
Indirect or direct.
Be friendly
Fun mentality
Talk normal

Frame/Qualifier (Yourself)
Body Rocking
Back and Forth
Slight movement towards and away from set.
Side to side (Multi-set)
Slight back to each participant of set, moving your back to other participants of the set
False Time Constraint
Teasing/Negs
DHV/Grounding
Grounding (establish humanity)
e.g., Childhood stories, passions, feelings
Frame(Her)/Cold Read
Qualifiers
Hooks
Locking in
Checking in

Two types of frames
Attraction Frames, Emotion Frames

Attraction Frames
Fun, non-creepy
Social Etiquette
Cold Reads
Emotion Frames
Elicit Emotion

Practice DHV stories and body language in the mirror

In action
Open target, frame yourself and be interesting. Start the conversation and use DHV stories. Utilize both attraction and comfort frames. Use proper body language and tonality. Lock in to target. Using tonality and grounding, enter a comfort frame. As emotion builds, take it away. Show an emotional range during the entire process. Reply through the entire process as needed.



My notes:

-Open
-Be friendly and shallow, fun not serious
-you can go direct, indirect, how ever you want.
-Establish your frame
-Define the interaction
-Do it be tonality, what we say, how we dress
-How to Establish frame:
-Body rock in and out, cut it / cut people out with body
-Immediately switch into DHV mode
-Ground your stories
-Frame them
-Cold read, qualify,
(Pre isolation is possible at this point)
-Say how they're acting / Cold reading
-"It's just like when..."
-Attraction Frames
-CJ's Strawberry Fields
-Comfort Frames
-ellicit emotion
-Always check in
-"You know what i'm talking about."
-Tell how you learned to respect something that caused you to become emotional (heartmelters) http://dallaspua.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2315

-On building comfort
-You can build up comfort as fast as you want, just do a takeaway when needed. (let the air out of the balloon).
-If you only focus on attraction (big problem with new pua's) they get bored and go dance.
-Body language
-Check yourself in the mirror
-Lean back, smile, ellicit feelings and emotions with body language
-Memorize your shit. Don't wing it.
-Frames, You want women to go through these steps when you place a frame out there.
-They believe it
-They accept it
-They defend it.
-Recommended reading, "Social Intelligence" by Daniel Goleman
"Full Fact Book on Cold Reading" by Ian Rowlings

The triangle of pick up:
Skills
Inner game
Lifestyle

The point of the triangle is to demonstrate that it all starts with lifestyle, and your lifestyle should define WHY you have inner game and the skills you have. Your skills and inner game should not define your lifestyle.

[Smirks]

Thanks Fin....and is this what he's supposed to talk about on the 18th? Cool stuff.

[Finesse]

Dunno if its gonna be the same stuff, im sure itll be a little different, as I know there is some stuff that he forgot to talk about at the Austin talk.

He has a great new spin on game and one I think most people dont even think about.

[Thaddeus]

Agreed it was definitely a change of pace for an MM speaker. I would like to see more time spent on some of the topics next time tho.

[Finesse]

Thats where our questions can come in.

[Westfall]

You left out the kung-fu penis.

Mine's a samurai. It is set in it's traditional ways, wears a funny hat, and stabs itself if it brings dishonor upon itself....as it often does by getting drunk and showing up at a party its not invited to, then passing out and throwing up on the host's couch.

Westfall

[Finesse]

I left it out because I was using that type of talk before the game. Which is why I dont have a problem in the seduction phase.

But for that case Ill write what I do know about it.

My take on Kung Fu Penis:
Its all sexual framing. Studies have shown that if a women gets aroused that alot of why she is aroused is centered on getting you off.

To put it simply women love to get men off.

Different studies have shown different things about why the feel this way but really, who the hell cares why they like to make a man come..... they just do.

So the framing is pretty graphic because remember that whenyou do this you are already in the heavy petting stage. She IS turned on, and she DOES want to feel your cock.

The frame you are supposed to project is the type of frame that reminds me of the, "Just the tip, just for a little bit, to see how it feels." The reason there is virtually no LMR with KFP is that it is a form of frame control that constantly makes it "just happen". Why did you do that?... I dunno... it just happened.... one thing lead to another....blah blah blah.

So you say stuff like.
*Grab her hand and put it on you.* "you feel that? what have you done to me?"
"You want to see this cock don't you."

and you escalate it. Look, touch, taste, feel inside of you, fuck hard.... and so on.

[Westfall]

So the framing is pretty graphic because remember that whenyou do this you are already in the heavy petting stage.

Yeah this doesnt work well as an opener. Imma try this next time I get LMR.

WF

[Finesse]

So the framing is pretty graphic because remember that whenyou do this you are already in the heavy petting stage.

Yeah this doesnt work well as an opener. Imma try this next time I get LMR.

WF

You need to do this before LMR. KFP is a pre-LMR tactic.

When you guys are making out+ and ya'll are at the seduction location, you pop wood, tell her to stop because *grab her hand and put it on you* this is what shes doing to you.

99% of the time they will start rubbing you. progress from there.

[Thaddeus]

LOL next thing ya know WF's gonna be calling it by name...