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A3 to C1

Postby Love » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:02 pm

What are the best ways to tell if she's ready to move from A3 Qualifying to Comfort?

Are there any other methods of qualifying than bait-hook-reel-release?


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Re: A3 to C1

Postby Westfall » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:25 pm

Love wrote:What are the best ways to tell if she's ready to move from A3 Qualifying to Comfort?

Are there any other methods of qualifying than bait-hook-reel-release?


I don't do MM, but I think if she jumps though a qualifying hoop you have sufficent attraction.

Another way would be to break rapport and see if she seeks to re-establish it.

Yet another would be to kino escallate and see if she responds favorablly.

2nd part of your question...there are several ways. Tell her you like XYZ girls and see if she tries to fit into that mold. Or you could ask her to tell you the most intersting thing about her.

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Postby RockStar » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:10 pm

changing to comfort location, kino escalating, bouncing, qualifying all of them are compliance tests.

the structure of compliance is:
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What are the best ways to tell if she's ready to move from A3 Qualifying to Comfort?


try to move her...in short give a compliance test.

Are there any other methods of qualifying than bait-hook-reel-release?


OK I don't really like the *IDEA* of the word "qualifying" but I use it . I think that qualifying is really just a compliance test, example:


me:what do you want to do when you grow up? TEST
her: ummm i don't know what ever. DON'T COMPLY
Me:(look away no eye contact) hmmm. IOD
me: (turn to look at her) no really. But I'm just a little curious. TEST

In short don't make your game too complicated. look at your game and look at all the compliance test you do. that's about 95% of your game!
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Re: A3 to C1

Postby Finesse » Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:25 pm

Love wrote:What are the best ways to tell if she's ready to move from A3 Qualifying to Comfort?

Are there any other methods of qualifying than bait-hook-reel-release?


thanks


as ET so awesomely put it, qualification is as simple as,

PUA: "What do you do in your free time?" (Bait)
HB: "I work."(Hook)
PUA: "Thats SO awesome! You have a job, cool. So do I (Reel), but we would never work because I want my women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, and since you have a job..."(Release)


Of course thats a really crappy way to qualify but the concept there is whats important.

Bait-Hook-Reel-Release is, from what i have seen, really the primary way to qualify.

Of course you can qualify on a completely different level, a level in which you dont even HAVE to bait, because you actually are looking for these qualities in which you are screening for. In which case you would need to develope a list of things girls must have in order for you to actually want to be with them.

A sample of my list is:
-Must like college football
-Must be compassionate and non-discriminatory/non-insulting (very important to me)
-Non materialistic (to a degree)

Anything can be on your list, but its important to have one because then you normally don't have to work at qualifying, because if you see something you dont like then you just next her.

Of course, if you are just trying to get laid, your qualifying can be extremely surface value. IE looks, intelligence isnt an issue, money, sex etc...

If you have attraction comfort is next anyway. remember attraction+comfort=able to seduce

Qualifying is a "transition" to comfort. There is no set structure to game. The a1,a2,a3,c1,c2,c3,s1,s2,s3 model is just that. Its a model, you have to think of game in terms of fluidity. Game is not defined by a model, yet it's fluid. As in constantly changing. Think of like an applause o meter and how it jumps around and seems to never stay at a set place too long. Its because the noise levels at any given point are always changing.

The same is true with an interaction, how you orchestrate the the scenarios is what determines your success in each particular pick up.

That being said, your qualifying needs to be a transitional part from attraction to comfort. not a step in and of its self.

Alot of my qualifying starts with stuff like:
"Have you ever noticed...."
"You know, I..."
"What do you think about..."
"How do you feel when..."

Qualification should be the doorstep to comfort in your interactions.

American Heritage Dictionary wrote: qual·i·fi·ca·tion (kwŏl'ə-fĭ-kā'shən)
n.
1.The act of qualifying or the condition of being qualified.
2.A quality, ability, or accomplishment that makes a person suitable for a particular position or task.


You are qualifying her in order to get into comfort type discussions with her. The range of topics that you could qualify her with is so broad that qualifying in and of its self could warrant an entire set of books, but can be defined as, If you say anything like or simular to, "I really enjoy...water because it quenches my thirst better than gatorade." and she says, "I like gatorade more because.... its fruity." Those are qualifying statements. She is continuing to have a conversation with you and you two are going back and forth. SHE does NOT have to agree with you in order for you to "qualify" her. If she answers your questions then she is qualifying herself to you.

Depending on what you are talking about you, it very well could be a serious issue to you,(which is why its not a bad idea to get your list of qualities you want in a woman) in which case you could then decide whether or not her liking fruity is an issue that would hinder a relationship between you two.

I know thats alot to read, and I may not have stated how I feel about qualification all that un-ambigiously so if you need me too I can re-iterate.
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Re: A3 to C1

Postby Finesse » Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:32 pm

Love wrote:What are the best ways to tell if she's ready to move from A3 Qualifying to Comfort?

Are there any other methods of qualifying than bait-hook-reel-release?


thanks


BTW, in the conversation pause for like 5 seconds between stories. If she looks comfortable and doesnt leave move to comfort.

Or you can do some kino escalation and play hand games, if shes relaxed with the hand games move to comfort. You can jump back and forth between comfort and attraction. Remember, game is fluid, and certain things have different attraction/comfort ratios than others.
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Re: A3 to C1

Postby Tribulus1000 » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:08 pm

Love wrote:What are the best ways to tell if she's ready to move from A3 Qualifying to Comfort?

Are there any other methods of qualifying than bait-hook-reel-release?


thanks


Everything everyone else said is great. If I may just add a couple of things...

How do you know when she's ready?

Qualifying is done in order to get consistency and commitment. Its an effort made.
The bigger the effort, the more committed a person is.

The question should then be how committed is she? Right?

So once you have a level of commitment aka an investment, its time to do your isolation/move.

"Let's go meet my friends."
"Shall we?"
"Its loud here, let's go talk over here."

The move itself is a compliance test. Its a different kind of commitment, more of a physical move than a commitment to talk and open up.

And you know to do a takeaway if she balks at it.

The other thing you can consider when going into C1 is eliciting values from the thing she just told you. Its like drilling down to find out what's really behind her decision to become a nurse or to become a cowgirl or whatever.

How's that?
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Re: A3 to C1

Postby Finesse » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:20 pm

Tribulus1000 wrote: The other thing you can consider when going into C1 is eliciting values from the thing she just told you. Its like drilling down to find out what's really behind her decision to become a nurse or to become a cowgirl or whatever.


Forgot about that.
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Re: A3 to C1

Postby Tribulus1000 » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:31 pm

Finesse wrote:
Tribulus1000 wrote: The other thing you can consider when going into C1 is eliciting values from the thing she just told you. Its like drilling down to find out what's really behind her decision to become a nurse or to become a cowgirl or whatever.


Forgot about that.


You can. I like it.
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Re: A3 to C1

Postby Finesse » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:35 pm

Tribulus1000 wrote:
Finesse wrote:
Tribulus1000 wrote: The other thing you can consider when going into C1 is eliciting values from the thing she just told you. Its like drilling down to find out what's really behind her decision to become a nurse or to become a cowgirl or whatever.


Forgot about that.


You can. I like it.


No. You misread. I said "Forgot". Meaning I forgot to mention that.

I happen to like it too, hence the myspace/facebook topic in the lounge.
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