I'm currently done with settling for 5 and 6s. It's getting harder and harder to find any better than this in Dallas without her boyfriend or some shit. I have made a declaration that I shall not settle or have sex again until I have a 9.5 or a 10.
With this being said, I make a motion that we sarge an ultra-lounge sometime soon. It can't be any worse than uptown.
Questions? Comments? Concerns?
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Sometime soon...
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by Guest » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:23 am
I have never met you, so I have no idea what your experience level is...but I just wanted to chime in with my thoughts on the ultra-lounge scene.
Your #1 obstacle in these places is going to be the wannabe alpha male cockblock. They're gonna try to out position you at the bar and any table/social circle you enter. They're gonna try to blow you out by talking over you, interrupting, turning your stories around so they involve him and he can take over. They're going to be straight up douche bags every way they can think of.
I agree that the women are basically like those who frequent Uptown...but it's 110% not my scene.
On the bright side, electronic music should be easier to talk over :D
Your #1 obstacle in these places is going to be the wannabe alpha male cockblock. They're gonna try to out position you at the bar and any table/social circle you enter. They're gonna try to blow you out by talking over you, interrupting, turning your stories around so they involve him and he can take over. They're going to be straight up douche bags every way they can think of.
I agree that the women are basically like those who frequent Uptown...but it's 110% not my scene.
On the bright side, electronic music should be easier to talk over :D
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by Guest » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:11 pm
I know how this sounds, but I have zero interest in ever nailing a 10. After being in the Community for a while, I've come to understand that there are so many other things from a woman that I require outside of how they look for me to actually want to take the time, and effort, to seduce them.
No offense, but I've always thought that those guys that focus exclusively on a woman's physical appearance are either 1) inexperienced with women and think that all they have to offer is a pretty face OR 2) are so devoid of any amount of substance as a person that they think how a person looks is of sole importance when determining their value.
I understand your frustration. The Game tends to sell people a bill of goods that if you do what we teach you to do then you'll get uber hot women. That's just not how it works. As for your comment about hot girls having a boyfriend, let me give you a little piece of reality that I figured out a long time ago: all beautiful women have a boyfriend. Sure, they may be willing to leave him and go for another one, but they all have guys hanging around the hoop waiting for their shot with the hottie. The theory is that if you have ultra tight Game, then you'll be the 'next guy,' which I don't disagree with necessarily.
As for Smirks' description of ultra lounges, he's pretty much right on. I will add that if you find it hard to Game in loud places then you're pretty much screwed. If you're looking for club game pointers, I'd hit up Solace. I've never seen him in action at the clubs/lounges, but I hear awesome things about his abilities in those venues.
No offense, but I've always thought that those guys that focus exclusively on a woman's physical appearance are either 1) inexperienced with women and think that all they have to offer is a pretty face OR 2) are so devoid of any amount of substance as a person that they think how a person looks is of sole importance when determining their value.
I understand your frustration. The Game tends to sell people a bill of goods that if you do what we teach you to do then you'll get uber hot women. That's just not how it works. As for your comment about hot girls having a boyfriend, let me give you a little piece of reality that I figured out a long time ago: all beautiful women have a boyfriend. Sure, they may be willing to leave him and go for another one, but they all have guys hanging around the hoop waiting for their shot with the hottie. The theory is that if you have ultra tight Game, then you'll be the 'next guy,' which I don't disagree with necessarily.
As for Smirks' description of ultra lounges, he's pretty much right on. I will add that if you find it hard to Game in loud places then you're pretty much screwed. If you're looking for club game pointers, I'd hit up Solace. I've never seen him in action at the clubs/lounges, but I hear awesome things about his abilities in those venues.
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by Guest » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:46 pm
Well, I appreciate both your input on the situation. Smirks, I haven't met you yet but Ive seen some of the other guys in action and it seems to me that it wouldn't be hard to disarm the cockblocks. (by the way Smirks, I'm fairly new to the community, experience level pretty low)
I do understand what yall are talking about though. I went to this place called M5 back when I was younger. It was a huge venue full of young bucks fighting and shit. I just have this feeling that my game is a little tighter now, and that if I could go back I wonder what it would be like. (that shit got shut down a long time ago)
Bull Run - Before the game, I wasn't getting much but some regular ol' run-of-the-mill pussy that was like friend of a friend, ya know? Now I'm pulling em straight from the bars, but they are just mediocre. I will admit, I am a very superficial person, but beautiful women are interesting to me. A challenge I haven't met yet.
I appreciate both your inputs and will definitely check out this Solace. Or someplace like Wish or Plush. I know, I've heard all about them. I just gotta go see for myself.
I do understand what yall are talking about though. I went to this place called M5 back when I was younger. It was a huge venue full of young bucks fighting and shit. I just have this feeling that my game is a little tighter now, and that if I could go back I wonder what it would be like. (that shit got shut down a long time ago)
Bull Run - Before the game, I wasn't getting much but some regular ol' run-of-the-mill pussy that was like friend of a friend, ya know? Now I'm pulling em straight from the bars, but they are just mediocre. I will admit, I am a very superficial person, but beautiful women are interesting to me. A challenge I haven't met yet.
I appreciate both your inputs and will definitely check out this Solace. Or someplace like Wish or Plush. I know, I've heard all about them. I just gotta go see for myself.
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by Guest » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:11 pm
M5 I kinda liked that place when it was running nicely. They had unisex bathrooms. It was dirty but I fucked in there a couple times. That made it kinda neat. It was a super young crowd but there were insane hotties there on occasion. Unfortunately they were young though(usually under 21).
If your game isn't super tight you might want to hold off on Ultra Lounges. If I am thinking about what you are talking about those are some of the harder places to game IMO. Everyone there in general has their heads in the clouds.
A good natural order would be stick with Addison and raise your bar. Go from the 6's you are pulling now and don't pull anything under a 7. Then just gradually go up the scale to about an 8. It is rare that you find anything above an 8 in Addison although it does happen on occasion.
From there move over to Uptown and mix in some of the ultra lounges if you want. Get some Uptown pulls under your belt though as that will probably be a good gauge if you can master the ultra lounge scene.
Just my opinion as I think the ultra lounges might be the harder places to pull from.
If your game isn't super tight you might want to hold off on Ultra Lounges. If I am thinking about what you are talking about those are some of the harder places to game IMO. Everyone there in general has their heads in the clouds.
A good natural order would be stick with Addison and raise your bar. Go from the 6's you are pulling now and don't pull anything under a 7. Then just gradually go up the scale to about an 8. It is rare that you find anything above an 8 in Addison although it does happen on occasion.
From there move over to Uptown and mix in some of the ultra lounges if you want. Get some Uptown pulls under your belt though as that will probably be a good gauge if you can master the ultra lounge scene.
Just my opinion as I think the ultra lounges might be the harder places to pull from.
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by Guest » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:35 pm
Only advise I will give is don't limit yourself to just one type of place....Most of the guys I have met are good at one type of game only ie...Loud club,dance club,day game,relaxed lounge, etc... and are a fish out of water in the other places, everyone of mentioned places take a totally different playa.
Direct approach a hottie in a group at relaxed lounges and amogs will come almost everytime. (lounges are my strongest game)
Indirect at most loud dance clubs that are hard to carry a conversation and it won't go over too well (you can talk louder but she has to talk sometime too). Direct game at high energy places is usually the way to go (This is a work in progress for me)
My point is at some clubs my game fits well and others not so much. I can pull more and way hotter chicks with my strengths than my weaknesses. Some clubs may absolutely suck for one gamer but it might be your hotspot depending on styles. Every HB6-10 fucks,loves,marries,cares for someone don't believe the hype that good looks means shes a bitch/fucked up or her personality sucks. Every girl has a unique set of challenges...ha ha
Direct approach a hottie in a group at relaxed lounges and amogs will come almost everytime. (lounges are my strongest game)
Indirect at most loud dance clubs that are hard to carry a conversation and it won't go over too well (you can talk louder but she has to talk sometime too). Direct game at high energy places is usually the way to go (This is a work in progress for me)
My point is at some clubs my game fits well and others not so much. I can pull more and way hotter chicks with my strengths than my weaknesses. Some clubs may absolutely suck for one gamer but it might be your hotspot depending on styles. Every HB6-10 fucks,loves,marries,cares for someone don't believe the hype that good looks means shes a bitch/fucked up or her personality sucks. Every girl has a unique set of challenges...ha ha
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by Guest » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:58 pm
Guys I'll take this one.
Retro - Being new in the game I really want to warn you, club/lounge game is tough to break into and it's even harder for you by yourself or a few guys rolling up together. There is one type of game that works in this scenerio and one type only. Social Game. Show up with tons of social proof (know the club owner, have a table, bottles, other attractive women already with you) or you have no chance. Now you might argue that the point to all of this is to stand out and be different then all the guys there. Yes and no. The 9's and 10's go to these places looking for the most popular high roller type guys. This is D-town bro. Wish and Plush can be fun, but they can also be some of the toughest places to sarge in Dallas. come to the meet up or PM me bro, I'll tell you a little more in depth about what I'm talking about. And solace is one of my steady wings, he's also all about social and club game. Those clubs are where we've filmed a few episodes of the Ram and Solace show.
Retro - Being new in the game I really want to warn you, club/lounge game is tough to break into and it's even harder for you by yourself or a few guys rolling up together. There is one type of game that works in this scenerio and one type only. Social Game. Show up with tons of social proof (know the club owner, have a table, bottles, other attractive women already with you) or you have no chance. Now you might argue that the point to all of this is to stand out and be different then all the guys there. Yes and no. The 9's and 10's go to these places looking for the most popular high roller type guys. This is D-town bro. Wish and Plush can be fun, but they can also be some of the toughest places to sarge in Dallas. come to the meet up or PM me bro, I'll tell you a little more in depth about what I'm talking about. And solace is one of my steady wings, he's also all about social and club game. Those clubs are where we've filmed a few episodes of the Ram and Solace show.
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by Guest » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:07 pm
[QUOTE=Ram;34402]Guys I'll take this one.
Retro - Being new in the game I really want to warn you, club/lounge game is tough to break into and it's even harder for you by yourself or a few guys rolling up together. There is one type of game that works in this scenerio and one type only. Social Game. Show up with tons of social proof (know the club owner, have a table, bottles, other attractive women already with you) or you have no chance. Now you might argue that the point to all of this is to stand out and be different then all the guys there. Yes and no. The 9's and 10's go to these places looking for the most popular high roller type guys. This is D-town bro. Wish and Plush can be fun, but they can also be some of the toughest places to sarge in Dallas. come to the meet up or PM me bro, I'll tell you a little more in depth about what I'm talking about. And solace is one of my steady wings, he's also all about social and club game. Those clubs are where we've filmed a few episodes of the Ram and Solace show.[/QUOTE]
Umm where are these episodes playing? I would like to watch them.
Retro - Being new in the game I really want to warn you, club/lounge game is tough to break into and it's even harder for you by yourself or a few guys rolling up together. There is one type of game that works in this scenerio and one type only. Social Game. Show up with tons of social proof (know the club owner, have a table, bottles, other attractive women already with you) or you have no chance. Now you might argue that the point to all of this is to stand out and be different then all the guys there. Yes and no. The 9's and 10's go to these places looking for the most popular high roller type guys. This is D-town bro. Wish and Plush can be fun, but they can also be some of the toughest places to sarge in Dallas. come to the meet up or PM me bro, I'll tell you a little more in depth about what I'm talking about. And solace is one of my steady wings, he's also all about social and club game. Those clubs are where we've filmed a few episodes of the Ram and Solace show.[/QUOTE]
Umm where are these episodes playing? I would like to watch them.
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