Free El Topo Talk Tuesday, Oct 28 with infield coaching!

[Guest]

Yea thanks for everything El topo and Vector! It was good seeing a lot of unfamiliar faces and a few faces I haven't seen recently. Even though I was really tired and went back home and fell asleep right away, still wish I would've been chosen to go sarge with el topo... but whatcha gonna do?

[Guest]

Okay, so here's what I got out of the whole thing:
This was my first time to one of these and must say it helped a lot.
El Topo was great; great speaker, fun personality, funny as hell.

I gotta meet this guy "Camouflage" who he was talking about (the short guy getting girls left and right). I'm pretty short myself so he would be a great motivator to help me over this little hang up I have.

So El Topo's talk was a freak'n brain dump. I feel like I only retained half of it but I wouldn't have it any other way. I just need to come up with a way to retain it all for next time.

The push/pull talk was gold—can't wait to put it in practice. Actually can't wait to put any of this in practice. I just gotta get out there, man! Hell, my name was even chosen to go out with the group last night but I passed. I just gotta do it! Somebody tell me to just do it! Get out there, don't care if you fail, just do it. I'm great with girls. Most I've met online but this cold approach thing is totally new to me. Funny though, I feel myself gain confidence the more I read and act on this stuff. If not anything, it's helped me dress better.

I'm hoping I can find some good friends out of this group—expand my social circle. Then you guys can just push me out into the field and say "be a man, get over it and just do it cause we know you can".

It was a pleasure to meet you guys last night. Vector, thanks for this opportunity. I want to try to make it to one of the sarging nights. I know it would do me a lot of good.

[Guest]

hmmm what did his push/pull talk consist of?? any main points? hmm? if u will be kind to tell others who hasn't been able to attend.

[Guest]

state breaks

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hmmm what did his push/pull talk consist of?? any main points? hmm? if u will be kind to tell others who hasn't been able to attend.
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Sleek, here's what I understand so far. "Pull" is showing your target interest and "push" is showing her disinterest. So you work push/pull at the same time on your target or set, whichever I guess. By pushing, your showing your value, pulling you're taking it away. I found this example on another forum when I was reading more about it:

"When I first met HB9 a month ago, she walked out on my set!!! She was hard core! She needed to be proven that I was no threat and that I would not just kiss her ass (pull) like every other guy. Thus, I needed to push and show some value in myself. Anyway, during the 2 hour conversation she told me lots of personal stuff only because she felt comfortable. I told her personal stuff too. So like mystery says, when you call a girl you are mainly providing comfort. But in doing so I was doing nothing but pulling! At the end of the conversation she agreed to go shopping with me, but told me that I had to go to Victoria’s Secret with her and she laughed! This was an IOI and a flirt, but I simply shrugged it off (and it was hard, literally!) and replied “Good, I was going there anyway”. She started in on me, “for what”. I would not tell her. I told her it was for personal reasons and that its just a thing that I have. She said, “you are so open, and know you won’t tell me this?” I stood my ground and said yes even though I did not want to. I just wanted to pull her toward me. But because I don’t know her that well yet I can’t. I must pull and push until I am fucking her and in a relationship. I held my position and told her that I don’t know her that well yet. She said well I am going to find out what it is that you are going to buy anyway. I said “that is fine because I will know you just that much better”. How could she argue, so she said “You are driving me crazy and I am going to be thinking about it until we go!” She added, “I bet it is something for a girl you’re dating.” She is already assuming it, great! She now thinks I am preselected by women simply because of that."

Basically El Topo covered three main topics last night: Attraction, Comfort, and Seduction. Push/Pull falls under the attraction category. More pull in comfort than push. Push/pull also works in seduction.

Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong. All this info is jumbled up in my brain…
I did my best, Sleek :P

[Guest]

hey man no worries, zero.
thanks for the info.
i wish the best luck for u and it was awesome what u did with that hb9 girl.

[Guest]

I remember when I was a newbie and read up on Push/Pull.

I messed up so bad with the first girl I went out with. Geeze I was a retard.

My point is make sure you use this correctly. Once you already have attraction built only use push VERY RARELY and in a sarcastic way so she knows you are just messing around.

Better yet don't use it at all once attraction is built and just use cocky/funny instead.

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hey man no worries, zero.
thanks for the info.
i wish the best luck for u and it was awesome what u did with that hb9 girl.
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Oh that's not my story, bro. Perhaps one day I'll land an hb9. That was only a quote from another source to support the push/pull theory.
My bad. Thanks for wishing me luck! I'm open for pointers when you can. I'm new at this—hopefully I'll be posting some field reports soon…

[Guest]

Yes, that was a great talk. El topo has great energy and is very charismatic. I loved his new perspective on negs.

[Guest]

It was good meeting you guys, I had fun. Vector, also - owe you some beers. And probably a few cigarettes to people.