Classes

[Guest]

Alright guys,

We are going to attempt to get some classes going.

Please post here, the topics you want to be discussed, and we will try and schedule a class that will encompass that subject.

Thanks,
Finesse

[Guest]

I'd be interested in any classes to tell the truth, be they directly related or indirectly related.

Directly related, it would be nice to see a class or two on storytelling, on framing... I know we have the posts for shit tests, and for reframing, but it might be interesting to do those things in a quick paced group enviroment.

Indirectly related, it would be cool if anyone here had a skill they think could help someone else. Part of this is about having fun, becoming a high value person, and doing things we truly enjoy.

Some people play the guitar.
Some people cook.
Some people do book keeping, or have computer skills, etc.

Not sure if anyone would want to teach those kinds of classes, or if anyone would want to go...but I think it's an idea.

[Guest]

Classes are a great idea.

A couple of random ideas I'll throw out:

1. PU Structure - a chance for newcomers to hear a couple of the experienced guys break down their game, i.e. Mystery and his FMAC model. Would be good for more experienced guys because they can incorporate new stuff that others use into their game

2. Basic fashion - not on how to make the cover of GQ, just basic tips for accessorizing, putting outfits together, etc in order to stand out from the crowd.

3. Related skills - kind of like what Skald posted, this "class" would cover different pickup-related skills that people are interested in, such as magic, music, cooking, sports, etc.

[Guest]

Yeah man hit me up and I'll help out!

[Guest]

Do these include in-field classes? If so, I wouldn't mind having someone go out with me and 2 or 3 other guys for a couple of hours and watching us do some REAL interacting and then providing feedback.

You know, correcting some BL's things, perhaps some fashion ideas, etc. Cause it's real hard to see yourself objectively in PU - especially when you're new. My only caveat would be to restrict it to guys who aren't going to have paralyzing AA. While understandable, it just winds up wasting people's time and nobody wants to have to coerce someone else into opening a set of females.

I'm not sure how I could make this worthwhile to the PUA doing the observing, though. I mean, what's in it for them other than the satisfaction of helping your fellow man? I'd be willing to buy drinks, but that's kinda...meh. Any ideas?

[Guest]

So we are looking at classes like "body language and you," "The Milk is Free, Don't Buy the Cow," "It's Murder on the Dance Floor," "Peacocking: From Pink Furry Vests to Blue Velvet Tuxedos." I would stay away from personalized in-field instruction and stick with classroom stuff. In-field is tougher to do and the benefit isn't as wide spread. In-field would put a strain on the volunteer instructors due to it's personalized nature while class room, while classroom, though not as beneficial, provides more bang for the buck. Professionals from different fields can be brought in and any cost can be spread across the attendees.

I have a lot of access to the ballroom community so I will use it as my example. A beginner group lesson for 15 guys at $10 a head will teach a guy as much as a beginner private lesson at $75.

I would teach a body language class but I think it is your wings responsibility help you implement what you learn when you go into the field.

I think fashion could be done in a 15 man class at the mall though and I would like to do that some time. A how and where to shop class might be quite helpful.

[Guest]

I've told almost everyone who would listen about the free salsa lessons at Mambo Cafe. So far, I'm the only one who has gone.
I'd can the dancing class, unless people were actually going to go.

The classes should be a mix of classroom and field. What is the point of theory, if it is not applied? The sooner it is applied after leaning it, the deeper it is ingrained.

I'd propose a loop structure:
1. theory
2.practice
3 evaluation/breakdown
1.theory.........ect

[Guest]

I agree about in-field practice so class should be followed with in field practice I just don't think in field instruction is a good idea. Go to the class and then work with your wing in the field. I think having having a guy follow 3 guys around and critiquing their every move is a bit much to ask for no compensation.

As far as dance lessons go, I wasn't really recommending setting up classes, it was more of an example of group versus personalized.

[Guest]

A dancing class would be great. I've had fun, and it's another tool in my arsenal.
For guys that would go, it's a dhv to be a good dancer.

[Guest]

Well I can set up a dance class