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transition
Posted:
Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:17 pm
by holyskeleton
i've read the chapter in magic bullet and tried it out today at stonebrair with no apparent improvement. does anyone know a good way to do it? perhaps examples?
Posted:
Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:17 pm
by Vector
The book The Joy of Sex has several ways to do it. Mostly it's a matter of personal preference.
What do you think is going wrong?
Posted:
Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:32 pm
by holyskeleton
most of the time when I did it the sets showed not much of a energy. they usually say "well, i dont know." or act like they have nothing to say. which makes it hard for me because although i know i have to lead the conversation its awkward that im still in the "stranger" zone. once i know that they are comfortable talking to me like a normal friend then i'll be able to start gaming.
Posted:
Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:35 am
by TheAwakened
You recommended me this book the other day and now it's not working out for you? For shame.
Posted:
Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:49 am
by Finesse
haha so is it a good book?
Posted:
Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:57 am
by quipster
I do not know what "the chapter in magic bullet" is
so I have no idea on what you are trying to do and what is happening. If you could elaborate a little more.
-quip
Posted:
Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:17 pm
by holyskeleton
@ TheAwakened
hey dont forget im still afc so i cant possibly grasp all the good stuff in this pickup bible.
but Transitioning is chapter 6. it tell you the ways to move yourself from the random "stranger" the she just met at the mall, to a guy she can comfortably talk to, about almost any subjects, like a good old friend she had for a long time. if done correctly everybody should not feel awkward expressing any emotions.
lets say you are at a party where flirting is on everybody's mind.
you: "I like you. lets get to know each other"
she: "okay." (and smiles in a flirting way.)
then theres no transition necessary. you can talk about anything and its game.
however, lets say you are at a park or a mall, and you open with a functional opener.
you: "hey you got the time?" or "do you know wheres XXX?"
she: " ya its XXX"
now you need a good transition to move on to other topics and make her comfortable talking to you so you can move onto the next step, which is attraction.
personally I rarely use functional openers, mostly situational. but that still need a good transition to get me out of the "stranger" zone.
with that being said, i still have not much clue as how to do it...
Posted:
Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:06 pm
by TheAwakened
Haha, I was just messing with you. I'll at least browse it to see if I think it's worth a buy next time I go to the bookstore, which will most likely be either today or tomorrow.
Posted:
Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:20 pm
by Vector
Getting her to acknowledge your existence is not really a complete opener. It's what they're sorta calling a "pre-opener" these days. Get an opinion or at least something more engaging.
PUA: "Do you know where such and such store is?"
HB: "Yeah it's that way"
PUA: "Okay because, I'm supposed to get such and such for whoever because her boyfriend was in a car wreck blah blah BS BS, I'm really confused about the finer subtleties of bras, which do you think she would like, this, or that?"
HB: "Well I don't really know but probably blah blah"
Then transition, maybe a cold read.
PUA: "I have an intuition about you, for some reason I'm getting this vibe that blah blah BS BS"
HB: "Yeah I love my dog like a member of the family"
Then fluff and on to A2 A3
The thing is, your opener has to hook first. You have to get them a little more engaged before you try the transition. You can't transition without completing the opener.
Posted:
Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:02 pm
by quipster
uhmm.. Mall game. This is something that I have done and seemed to work fine for me is to basically tell the girl to help you shop. Females love shopping and help guys shop from what I have seen.
me: Hey, come here. Which XXX should I get? Pointing to a couple of XXX
HB: That one.
me: WHAT! That’s ugly, you’re supposed to be awesome at shopping, and you are a female right?
HB: I AM!
me: Well, come here help pick out XXXX.
from here conversation goes where you want it to.
Like Vector said "Then fluff and on to A2 A3 etc"
So lets see..
open
bt spike with dynamic/c&f reply
lead around
I do this in playful yet dominant manner.
I by no means think this is perfect, it is something I did before getting into the game and always seem to work for me.
-quipster