PUA cooperation? Every PUA an island?

[El Fenix]

I fellow PUA, recently gave me a hard time about posting on here about what bars are hot what nights. His tone was as if it was some big secret. His beef was also that by posting on here, that all the PUAs were magically going to show up at those bars and somehow suck up all the women.

I disagree with this mentality. The PUA's here in Dallas have much more to gain from joining up together, and sarging together. Last I checked, it was called "the community." Online posting is fine, but only when we meet up, does it truly become a real community.

I thought that this community was about improving our skills to realize our dreams of having beautiful women in our lives. I have presonally improved much through having great guys to sarge with at the places that are hot on different nights. I tip my hat to Vector, Neuromancer, and Chaos. I dont know where my game would be without them. The best nights as a growing PUA have not been by sarging by myself, but with friends.

The community here isint that big compared to other places. It might be better to keep it that way. What I would like to see, is becoming a tighter community. We have much to learn from eachother, and the best way to do that is by hanging out and spending time together. Even if the entire Dallas community were to show up at the same place at the same time(impossible if you know PUAs) it would be a hell of a night, not a miserable one.

[Tribulus1000]

I fellow PUA, recently gave me a hard time about posting on here about what bars are hot what nights. His tone was as if it was some big secret. His beef was also that by posting on here, that all the PUAs were magically going to show up at those bars and somehow suck up all the women.

Its really about who's hanging with who. The guys that you hang with are reflection on you.
And girls notice this.

I disagree with this mentality. The PUA's here in Dallas have much more to gain from joining up together, and sarging together. Last I checked, it was called "the community." Online posting is fine, but only when we meet up, does it truly become a real community.

I feel ya here bro.

Thing is, you want to get laid. You don't want everyone going to the same place using the same openers and coming up to you and wanting to talk shop in the middle of the venue.

Its not rude to be selfish. Its more priority. Your priority is to get laid.

I agree with you, its just that time and experience have taught me that too many guys in a venue is a problem.
The 'circle of lamers' phenomenon is when a bunch of pua's stand around talking shop while girls get creeped out.
Don't let this be you.

I've been in a bar where 5 guys stood and stared at one dude who was about to pull.
I had to tell one buddy "snap out of it!" because he was tranced out with watching from the sidelines.
So gotta be proactive. Its about you.

I thought that this community was about improving our skills to realize our dreams of having beautiful women in our lives. I have presonally improved much through having great guys to sarge with at the places that are hot on different nights. I tip my hat to Vector, Neuromancer, and Chaos. I dont know where my game would be without them. The best nights as a growing PUA have not been by sarging by myself, but with friends.

That's great. I still go out with my sarging buddies who I met over a year ago.
I would suggest that your next step is to go solo and learn how to be good by yourself. I'm doing this now.

Calibration and experinece pay dividends. Just hanging with pua buddies can become a crutch.
Have you taken a bootcamp?

The community here isint that big compared to other places. It might be better to keep it that way. What I would like to see, is becoming a tighter community. We have much to learn from eachother, and the best way to do that is by hanging out and spending time together.

Try finding some naturals and hanging with them.

Hanging out is great. You just don't want it to look like a Star Trek Convention. Again it will reflect back on you.

If you have 5-7 guys in a venue, it had better be someone's birthday or bachelor party. It should convey higher value. Not "we're here to scam on girls". That's creepy.

That's my opinion.

[El Fenix]

The most guys I've personally seen in 1 place from the community at 1 time is 4 or 5. This has happened several times. One of the times is when I was with Vector at Sherlocks in Addison and ran into Gamemaker and holyskeleton. Theres a whole thread on this..but to summarize.... Vector and I PAIRED OFF with each of them and started opening sets. Viola! Everyone's night gets better.
Another time Vector ran into Captain Jack and another top PUA at a bar that will go unnamed. And his response was "get your arse over here!"
Not "crap we got 2 of the best in the bar, now EVERYONE will know what's going on." Quite the contrary.

Now when I was getting started, or before I was in the community, and still had a lot of AA, the "circle of jerks" standing around was a problem. Chaos will attest to this, and even then it was 2 guys, not 12! If your any decent at all, this simply isint an issue. Now, many of the guys here in the community may have a bit of AA still. Fine. They can stand around while I'm working the room.

My game has improved by sarging with other guys. I can and do sarge by myself. I do see your point about it being a crutch for many guys: They cant do it without their buddies there. Or about 6 beers! I used to be that way, so I understand it.

Theres 2 things that could be an issue with a lot of community guys in 1 place.
1. the circle of jerks. A lot of guys do this anyways who aernt in the community. An issue, but not much one can do.

2. Everyone using the same damned openers. THIS is a problem. It hasnt happened to me, but I know guys who it has. You use a popular opener, and the girls knows it already. An easy way to fix this is to be clear on whos doing what. I personally like to use a few openers most of the time. Say I run into a guy I know from the community. Its real easy to ask what's your usualy opener tonight? If it's the same one, use a different one. More communication is the key here, not less.

[TheDoGhoUse]

i have just a much fun going out with guys and just enjoying ourselves. Its fun watching, its fun being a wingman, its fun going in solo and controling the scene and bringing in your seconds. Enjoy going out and socializing with other people whether they are friends or other PUA's. The best way to learn and come up with new ideas is by going out with other people. Its not all about just getting your stick wet.

[holyskeleton]

just enjoying ourselves.

thats pretty much my goal above all. once i clear my mind and make that my only propose then i can handle whatever comes up. be it amogs or girls or whatever. its mostly inner game, or frame, or mindset, etc.

btw whos gamemaker sry im not good with names

[Scoundrel]

What we need is something to identify one another in the field. Some unique accessory that’s easy to spot. I’ve noticed that Mystery, Style, Lovedrop and many others PUAs wear a thumb ring. We could use something along these lines. Then we’d know who is who and if we’re stepping on each others toes.

[BluesCluesPUA]

But we must maintain reticence about our sign, lest girls learn of it and become aware of who we are. Unless we rotate constantly... Thumb-ring Thursdays, top-hat Tuesdays, etc. Just kidding.

[LavianOrlandu]

I like the idea of an identifier. It'd have to be something small and insignificant looking to avoid being easily identifiable.

How about a gold thumb ring in the tradition of Style and Mystery then?

[Scoundrel]

Oh please, not GOLD. Well OK, if you must, wear gold. But any thumb ring would be out there enough. I just prefer silver. It goes with the rest of my stuff.

[El Fenix]

me also. my jewelery is silver