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A Frame With No Escape

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:56 am
by Scoundrel
I have talked about this a little, but I'm using it in every set these days. So, I thought I'd share it with you guys as it's working very well for me.

There are a number of ways you can start this, but the best way I have found if using a mini cold read. My cold reads are bullshit. I don't even try to make them seem real to her at all. I'll just grab her hand, look at her palm and say "Interesting..." drop her hand and turn away slightly.

When she chases me a little I tell her that I saw in her palm that her favorite web site is barely legal boys.com or chicks with dicks or some other crazy sex site. She always denies it of course. But, I frame her denial as her not being able to admit she's into that.

"Oh sweetie, you don't have to lie to me. It's all cool. We all need a little something to get us in the mood sometimes."

Now, I have framed her as some kind of sex fend and her denying it as lying. All she can do is admit to being a sex fend because the more she tries to deny it the less people will believe her.

Try it in the field and let me know about your results.

Re: A Frame With No Escape

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:28 pm
by Tribulus1000
Is this field tested?

Re: A Frame With No Escape

PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:30 am
by Scoundrel
Tribulus1000 wrote:Is this field tested?


Yes, of course it's field tested. I'm using it in every set now. I also use it in text and phone game.

I don't post techniques I haven't used in the field and gotten good results with. I'm not saying it will work for everyone, but it works for me.

Re: A Frame With No Escape

PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:33 pm
by Gamble
Scoundrel wrote:I have talked about this a little, but I'm using it in every set these days.

Tribulus1000 wrote:Is this field tested?


I think Trib's saying that you're not opening sets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted:

Just kidding, lol

Re: A Frame With No Escape

PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:55 pm
by Scoundrel
Gamble wrote:
Scoundrel wrote:I have talked about this a little, but I'm using it in every set these days.

Tribulus1000 wrote:Is this field tested?


I think Trib's saying that you're not opening sets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted:

Just kidding, lol


LOL He may be. I have seldom opened sets when I'm with him. But, I won't get into why that is here. Trib is a generally good guy and I like him.

Re: A Frame With No Escape

PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:06 pm
by Gamble
I was just joking, didn't mean anything by it whatsoever.

Re: A Frame With No Escape

PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:46 pm
by RockStar
I'm glad that this technique works for you...but it is a little awkward and stinks of LSE IMHO.

Why AMOG a chick you're trying to sleep with? It's like smacking a dog with a rolled up newspaper who's been good. You're setting a confrontational frame...I don't get it.

but I'll field test it and let you know.

Rockstar

Re: A Frame With No Escape

PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:03 pm
by Scoundrel
You have to do it playfully. Exaggerate it, so she knows you are joking.

PUA: (looks at HB's palm) Hmmmm... interesting... (drops her hand)

HB: What?

PUA: I can't tell you. I don't know you well enough.

HB: What?

PUA: (takes her hand again) According to this you spend most of your free time looking at trannny porn. (smiling all the time)

HB: I do not! (shocked, but smiling)

PUA: Hey, no worries. I understand. We all need a little something to get us in the mood. I don't judge. It's all good. I can get a little freaky myself from time to time.

I have yet to use this without getting a playful punch in the arm or some other fun reply. The worst reply has been a huffy "tsk." But, still she's playful about it.

I never thought of this as AMOGing. Just frame control. It's a trap and they fall for it. Same as the 5 questions bet. You tool her in a playful way. It's sort of like a neg.

I also have things I write down on a napkin. Tell the girl it's sort of a tongue teaser and have her repeating that's she's a retard three times. LOL It's a blast! The girl blushes and really starts becoming interested.

It's one of those things that doesn't make sense. You make the chick look and feel foolish and she becomes attracted. You're treating her like a bratty little sister. No one treats her like that.

What you DO NOT want to do is play this like you're really reading her palm.

BTW Rockstar, you could do this easily. You def have the chops for it.

Re: A Frame With No Escape

PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:26 am
by Scoundrel
It occurs to me that giving some other examples of how to use this tool may help. And this is a tool that can be used in many ways. I already posted in another thread a text thread, but here it is again.

HB: So, what should I wear tonight?

Me: A thong is always appreciated.

HB: LOL (something flirty I've forgotten) and FYI I always wear a thong.

Me: Send me a pic.

HB Ha ha NO WAY!

Me: I understand, poop stains.

HB: That NEVER happens!

Me: Hey, you had Mexican last night. It's cool, happens to the best of us.

Here I've framed her refusal to send me a pic as her wearing dirty underwear. The more she denies it the more she is chasing my approval. Get it?

Re: A Frame With No Escape

PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:45 pm
by Scoundrel
I've thought of another way I use this tool in the field. Sometimes while eating out I'll say to whomever I with, talking about our waitress, "She's in love with me you know. She tries to hide it, but I can tell by the way she looks at me." A good wing will say something like "Yeah, I see what you mean."

Here again I've framed her denying she loves me has her trying to hide it. If she complains I'll say "see how she's trying to sweat me?" Or, "you don't have to play hard to get." But, they seldom complain. In fact, they usually blush and smile.