How to Isolate by Asian Playboy (repost)
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:58 pmBob had a question about isolating...
Hi Captain, How do you isolate? What do you say to them and how do you physically do it?
Do you just take their hand and lead them where you want to go? Or do you hold out your arm and tell them to grab it?
Also there have been times where I'll open a girl and she'll ask me what my name is right off the opener, or she'll hit me with 3 or 4 IOI's within a minute of talking, in those instances, should I move her right away? Thanks!
I'm going to list what I *used* to do when I actively used MM/indirect and what I currently use now which is almost entirely BLP (Body Language Positioning).
In MM, I would befriend the group, through some C&F, and maybe neg the target. Then I'd use the Cube, once I had determined that I had achieved high or equal social value and attraction.
Usually I'd say, "Have you ever been Cubed? NO?! Well, I'll learn more about you in 10 minutes than most of you friends know about you in years.
Let's go somewhere quiet." This required her and her friends conscious consent. Kino use to isolation would depend upon how compliant she is and her IOIs.
Dependent upon your own radar and your wingman and constant verbal game to distract/attract her. Usually requires you to constantly verbal gaming her until you sit, isolate, and allow her to interact AFTER you've sat/isolated.
Sometimes, I'd also use Fuck/Marry/Kill... 2 guys, 1 girl as the game targets (credit Prophet: find out if she's bisexual!). Move around the club, get social proofed, and end with pointing out a girl somewhere that's easily isolatable.
The key, in both, is to KNOW your logisitical layout no matter your style and methodology.
ALWAYS scope out a solid sit-down area, isolation area, and makeout area.
ALWAYS. My current method is to address the group, 5 minutes of befriending, mini-isolate but maintain the circle using the music as an excuse to pull her into me.
Game her and friends and totally turn her around. This amplifies her IOIs by being mini-isolated with you, exagerates (or makes apparent) her level of interest in you (thus forming an anti-cockblock shield), while still having the option of winning the peer group.
Turn again under the guise of looking elsewhere, getting a drink, pointing at something, and now you're isolated. Lean against the wall (or something) and make her pull in.
Successfully done, no girl will cockblock her friend (just like guys don't cockblock their bros unless jealousy is a factor) and requires NO wingman, no elaborate routines, while social proofing you and giving you some anti-cockblock.
To sit down, I'd simply position myself, say "My feet hurt, let's seat", motion her to seat and seat myself, fully expecting her to seat and not disobey me. It's still her choice, but she's fallen into a frame of following me and she's still allowed to engage and interact verbally. Less work.
Little verbal game. Mostly being control of my BL, her BL, and the surroundings around us. The first can definitely raise attraction by befriending the peer group, but it requires a larger time and energy investment not to mention constant verbal gaming.
And it was always a very apparent, big move with little subtlty at least that's how it always appeared to me.
The latter, what I do now, is far less work, requires some befriending, no need for wingmen, less verbal, and far more subtle. Lots of things work, it's about how you incorporate it into your own game and personality.
by Asian Playboy on Feb 1, 2007 at 5:48 AM
Hi Captain, How do you isolate? What do you say to them and how do you physically do it?
Do you just take their hand and lead them where you want to go? Or do you hold out your arm and tell them to grab it?
Also there have been times where I'll open a girl and she'll ask me what my name is right off the opener, or she'll hit me with 3 or 4 IOI's within a minute of talking, in those instances, should I move her right away? Thanks!
I'm going to list what I *used* to do when I actively used MM/indirect and what I currently use now which is almost entirely BLP (Body Language Positioning).
In MM, I would befriend the group, through some C&F, and maybe neg the target. Then I'd use the Cube, once I had determined that I had achieved high or equal social value and attraction.
Usually I'd say, "Have you ever been Cubed? NO?! Well, I'll learn more about you in 10 minutes than most of you friends know about you in years.
Let's go somewhere quiet." This required her and her friends conscious consent. Kino use to isolation would depend upon how compliant she is and her IOIs.
Dependent upon your own radar and your wingman and constant verbal game to distract/attract her. Usually requires you to constantly verbal gaming her until you sit, isolate, and allow her to interact AFTER you've sat/isolated.
Sometimes, I'd also use Fuck/Marry/Kill... 2 guys, 1 girl as the game targets (credit Prophet: find out if she's bisexual!). Move around the club, get social proofed, and end with pointing out a girl somewhere that's easily isolatable.
The key, in both, is to KNOW your logisitical layout no matter your style and methodology.
ALWAYS scope out a solid sit-down area, isolation area, and makeout area.
ALWAYS. My current method is to address the group, 5 minutes of befriending, mini-isolate but maintain the circle using the music as an excuse to pull her into me.
Game her and friends and totally turn her around. This amplifies her IOIs by being mini-isolated with you, exagerates (or makes apparent) her level of interest in you (thus forming an anti-cockblock shield), while still having the option of winning the peer group.
Turn again under the guise of looking elsewhere, getting a drink, pointing at something, and now you're isolated. Lean against the wall (or something) and make her pull in.
Successfully done, no girl will cockblock her friend (just like guys don't cockblock their bros unless jealousy is a factor) and requires NO wingman, no elaborate routines, while social proofing you and giving you some anti-cockblock.
To sit down, I'd simply position myself, say "My feet hurt, let's seat", motion her to seat and seat myself, fully expecting her to seat and not disobey me. It's still her choice, but she's fallen into a frame of following me and she's still allowed to engage and interact verbally. Less work.
Little verbal game. Mostly being control of my BL, her BL, and the surroundings around us. The first can definitely raise attraction by befriending the peer group, but it requires a larger time and energy investment not to mention constant verbal gaming.
And it was always a very apparent, big move with little subtlty at least that's how it always appeared to me.
The latter, what I do now, is far less work, requires some befriending, no need for wingmen, less verbal, and far more subtle. Lots of things work, it's about how you incorporate it into your own game and personality.
by Asian Playboy on Feb 1, 2007 at 5:48 AM