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Negging

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:05 am
by antivisual
I have noticed I seem to have a hard time coming up with a neg and using them. I guess I feel if I neg them it will upset them, which i know is kinda what you want to do. Anyway, how do you guys come up with not to harsh negs on the fly in normal conversation?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:52 am
by waijai
The purpose of a neg is not to upset a girl, but it is to convey the idea that you are not seeking their approval and not out there to put them up on a pedestal. Basically you are disinterested in their beauty. It's something that will make them self concious and trigger something in their mind like. "wait wth was that...a compliment?"

If you have a fear of upsetting them, then you still have some AFC attitudes inside you. You have to throw the neg and not wait for a reaction to it. If you wait for a reaction, then you're seeking the validation of its purpose. You have to throw negs real quick and continue with the conversation.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:00 pm
by Fuzz
I'm starting to come to a turning point about negs because the way most people do them is just not congruent with my personality. But there are many variations on the neg, and lots of reasons for doing it. Even before I knew about all this PUA stuff, I found I would do it not even knowing what it was. It's just a natural part of flirting to tease back and forth, but in my opinion sometimes negs can transmit too much interest, and if your goal is to disqualify her then this is not the way to go about doing it. Though if she's showing interest flirting/teasing then there's no reason not to do it back. I've found other things that seem to work better, body language, facial expressions, things like that. Like everything it has to be properly calibrated. If I have to neg, I'll usually throw out "We're never going to get along" because it's not mean, and it goes along better with my personality. I've had good results with that. I am currently field testing a kind of smile that's supposed to transmit "I'm too cool for you," which is something I used to do unknowingly before I got into PU stuff.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:24 pm
by Bull Run
Fuzz wrote:which is something I used to do unknowingly before I got into PU stuff.


I know exactly how you feel. When I found out that I was unknowingly employing many PU tactics in my 'normal' game I've found that I feel more contrived in my pick ups now. It's hard to effectively do something when you know it's supposed to illicit a response.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:43 pm
by Fuzz
Bull Run wrote:
Fuzz wrote:which is something I used to do unknowingly before I got into PU stuff.


I know exactly how you feel. When I found out that I was unknowingly employing many PU tactics in my 'normal' game I've found that I feel more contrived in my pick ups now. It's hard to effectively do something when you know it's supposed to illicit a response.


It's just something I would do (an probably still do) that people revealed to me made them feel as though I were judging them, making fun of them, or just illiciting a sense of being way too cool, all without really saying a word. Also, without even really believing any of the above. I have an idea of what I might've been doing to illicit that response, but I'm not sure so I want to test it a little bit. Eventually I hope to be able to turn it on and off when the situation calls.