When do you stop gaming and just start being yourself

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When do you stop gaming and just start being yourself

Postby elitetran54 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:47 pm

This weekend i opened some pretty good sets. But i screwed it up by being to cocky i think. Which got me thinking. When do you just start being normal, or like tone it down. I meet this pretty nice HB9 last nite, and don't want to screw it up. What do you guys think? Just looking for some insight?????
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Postby Tracer » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:21 pm

Me personally I like to be myself from the get go minus the some openers, but I am cocky funny naturally. When I feel like I got her attracted to me I tend to ease up and just tell stories, have fun and bust on her a bit just to keep that sexual tension there. If she can't have fun and takes it personal while I am, then she isn't the girl for me.
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Postby Finesse » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:54 pm

I am ultimately taking a somewhat different approach to all of this. I dont really verbalize this at all.... as a matter of fact this is the first time I have told anyone about this.

I am getting into the game in a reverse fashion. Meaning that, while MM, Annihilation, and other methods, that I have seen tend to start from the beginning and then build from that. I am taking what I have and working in the things I have recognized that I need.

I think it's a matter of opinion on what works best, but ultimately thats all it is.... a matter of opinion.

I am pretty comfortable starting in the middle and building around. I am normally a C&F type of guy.... but I noticed that when I read that C&F was an attraction type DHV I went overboard and started getting really into it. I became "SuperJerk". I dont believe that building a strong foundation is the best remedy for everything, really, the best way to solve a problem is to work backwards starting with the problem, and I consider this just a problem with women.

I think that you will add better traits to yourself as you grow and get better, but part of this, as Style said, "Youre becoming a better you." But you cant be yourself if youre starting from square one with how you deal with women. But I like the annihilation model better. Its not as stringent with its model.

All of that to say, that I think that you should be yourself from the beginning, and just add what you need to increase your desired effect for solving the problem.
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Postby Vector » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:57 pm

Gaming and being yourself should not be all that different. I don't think I switch from one to the other, except for the openers which are not my natural self. Find a style that fits your persona. I use very little C&F because it's not me.
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Postby waijai » Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:36 pm

Gaming is just understanding how girls react to certain stimulus. It's a system...a means to an end. If you incorporate a lot of traits of what women are attracted to, then you'll become that person eventually.
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Postby Scoundrel » Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:57 pm

Running game doesn’t mean you’re not being yourself. It means finding the PUA that’s deep inside of you and nurturing him. Your "self" is all you can be. There is nothing more. Try as you might, you can never be someone else.
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Postby phoenix_rising » Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:15 am

there shouldn't be too much of a difference between yourself and who you are portraying yourself as.
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Postby NobodyUKnow » Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:20 pm

Scoundrel wrote:Running game doesn’t mean you’re not being yourself. It means finding the PUA that’s deep inside of you and nurturing him. Your "self" is all you can be. There is nothing more. Try as you might, you can never be someone else.


Magic words Scoundrel. Props.

To rephrase, you are never *not* yourself while in set; PUA is about making who you are better at being relaxed, confident and all the other things that make women attracted. There are those who say you should do things entirely counter to who you are, and to that I say "bullshit". Women are far better calibrated then we will ever be in detecting incrongruence. You're much better off being exactly who are you and portraying yourself as all that and a bag of chips -- which you are. All PUA does is help you to communicate that more effectively.
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Postby Neil » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:07 am

You start being yourself in comfort. You first have to get her to make herself attractive to you, then you have to get her attracted to you. After you have done this, then you can isolate and begin comfort. In comfort is when you start telling the girl more about yourself and trying to connect on a deeper level. This is when you are trying to get her to want to be around you for more than just the "show" you were previously putting on.

However, remember that in comfort you still have to bait/hook/reel/release so that you can keep her spiking.

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