AFC AdamLondon - The framework beneath the game
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:06 pmThis was originally posted by AFC AdamLondon to the London Seduction Society last month. I know Adam is on this board - hope you don't mind buddy. This is pure gold.
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Hey guys,
Writing this is either the cleverest thing I've ever done or the most stupid. I need to do it though. I love teaching this, I don't know why I just do.
Guys, you've seen the arguements. MM, RSD, Juggler, Direct, Indirect, Method acting and all the other crap. My method is better than your method. Yet we all know that deep down. All of it works. Why is that?
Why is it possible that all of them can have exactly the same results? Well it's because they all follow the same simple pattern. I wrote an ebook about this. It took me forever. However since then I've managed to simplify how I explain it, so hopefully I'll be able to condense it all down in this post.
Here's the break down.
The Formula
There are probably a number of different ways of putting attraction and comfort together; however there does seem to be a formula that yields a higher degree of results in a quicker time. Most people who are naturally good at interpersonal attraction seem to use this formula in some form or another. Perhaps you could do this in another order, though in my experience it is likely to only prolong the process and take longer to achieve the same result.
The process can be summarised as:-
1) Comfort
2) Break rapport
3) Attraction
4) Escalation
Sounds easy, however the problem is many people have no idea exactly how they would go about introducing or creating each of those things, or what stage they are already at to know what to do next. They may even wonder why they have to be done in that exact order.
First, lets look at what exactly each one is.
Comfort
Essentially you are looking to build a situation where the other person is at ease being around you, there is no fear of you doing anything harmful to them and in short they trust you. Sometimes the other person will seek comfort with you. Esspecially if you have a number of qualities of attraction, these can be anything from good looks, to social proof, to confidence, to leadership to preselection. etc.
Break Rapport
This is where you break the initial feeling of trust previously created to add an element of danger. Nothing too tragic like causing actual harm, but potentially vocalising a disagreement, teasing them, or even making a slightly sexually suggestive comment. They will then begin to rebuild the rapport or comfort that was broken. Essentially trying to fix the situation between you, and get back to that nice zone from before... of course by now you've switched to Attraction.
Attraction
Here you are seeking to sub-communicate and convey a number of reasons as to why they would want to be with you, without sounding too arrogant. Essentially you are demonstrating higher value. It's a tough line to follow and one many people fail to achieve. This is probably the hardest part to learn from scratch. The more they buy into your frame and qualification the more they are investing themselves into you, and there is now only two choices. They can either lose their investment in you which is painful and not something people do lightly or accept your new frame of sexual escalation.
Escalation
At this point you are seeking to capture the moment created by the previous processes and escalate the interaction in distinct ever increasing stages into some form of relationship, be it a date, kiss or something further. Ideally you will use severe sexual escalation, using alot of kino building it up, into a point where you are kissing their necks and stroking their back.
Simple eh? Stupidly simple? yet think about it...
Why does MM sometimes work based on a girl opening him from his peacocking? Because she is seeking comfort with him.
Why does it fail sometimes? because she doesn't feel comfortable talking to a guy who's peacokcing that heavily.
Why do negs work? because they break rapport.
Why do they fail? Because there wasn't enough comfort previously to work from.
(Imagine going up to a girl you've never met and telling her that her shirt looks like it was from a second hand store. She'lld tell you to fuck off. now imagine saying that to a girl that you've been talking to for like 40 mins. would she tell you to f off? no of course not. She'lld be taken aback... maybe hit you for being so rude... hang on that's an IOI. You broke rapport and now she is kinoing you.. trying to rebuild that comfort through touch.)
I've been using this formula myself recently and I can't tell you how much it's helped me. Not to follow rigidly Just to understand where I am it helps you realise why things work, so that you can do whatever you want. Be AFC, be Direct, Peacock.
Do what you want but understand without comfort between you, you won't be able to break rapport, and without breaking rapport you'll be LJBF'd forever.
Then as soon as they are qualifying themselves to you, or seriously building rapport (Giving you IOI's) Step it up to sexual escalation. Don't lie, don't hide your intentions, don't have expectations. Just enjoy the ride. Literally!
Feel free to comment and ask questions! LR from last night to follow.
AFC AdamLondon
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Hey guys,
Writing this is either the cleverest thing I've ever done or the most stupid. I need to do it though. I love teaching this, I don't know why I just do.
Guys, you've seen the arguements. MM, RSD, Juggler, Direct, Indirect, Method acting and all the other crap. My method is better than your method. Yet we all know that deep down. All of it works. Why is that?
Why is it possible that all of them can have exactly the same results? Well it's because they all follow the same simple pattern. I wrote an ebook about this. It took me forever. However since then I've managed to simplify how I explain it, so hopefully I'll be able to condense it all down in this post.
Here's the break down.
The Formula
There are probably a number of different ways of putting attraction and comfort together; however there does seem to be a formula that yields a higher degree of results in a quicker time. Most people who are naturally good at interpersonal attraction seem to use this formula in some form or another. Perhaps you could do this in another order, though in my experience it is likely to only prolong the process and take longer to achieve the same result.
The process can be summarised as:-
1) Comfort
2) Break rapport
3) Attraction
4) Escalation
Sounds easy, however the problem is many people have no idea exactly how they would go about introducing or creating each of those things, or what stage they are already at to know what to do next. They may even wonder why they have to be done in that exact order.
First, lets look at what exactly each one is.
Comfort
Essentially you are looking to build a situation where the other person is at ease being around you, there is no fear of you doing anything harmful to them and in short they trust you. Sometimes the other person will seek comfort with you. Esspecially if you have a number of qualities of attraction, these can be anything from good looks, to social proof, to confidence, to leadership to preselection. etc.
Break Rapport
This is where you break the initial feeling of trust previously created to add an element of danger. Nothing too tragic like causing actual harm, but potentially vocalising a disagreement, teasing them, or even making a slightly sexually suggestive comment. They will then begin to rebuild the rapport or comfort that was broken. Essentially trying to fix the situation between you, and get back to that nice zone from before... of course by now you've switched to Attraction.
Attraction
Here you are seeking to sub-communicate and convey a number of reasons as to why they would want to be with you, without sounding too arrogant. Essentially you are demonstrating higher value. It's a tough line to follow and one many people fail to achieve. This is probably the hardest part to learn from scratch. The more they buy into your frame and qualification the more they are investing themselves into you, and there is now only two choices. They can either lose their investment in you which is painful and not something people do lightly or accept your new frame of sexual escalation.
Escalation
At this point you are seeking to capture the moment created by the previous processes and escalate the interaction in distinct ever increasing stages into some form of relationship, be it a date, kiss or something further. Ideally you will use severe sexual escalation, using alot of kino building it up, into a point where you are kissing their necks and stroking their back.
Simple eh? Stupidly simple? yet think about it...
Why does MM sometimes work based on a girl opening him from his peacocking? Because she is seeking comfort with him.
Why does it fail sometimes? because she doesn't feel comfortable talking to a guy who's peacokcing that heavily.
Why do negs work? because they break rapport.
Why do they fail? Because there wasn't enough comfort previously to work from.
(Imagine going up to a girl you've never met and telling her that her shirt looks like it was from a second hand store. She'lld tell you to fuck off. now imagine saying that to a girl that you've been talking to for like 40 mins. would she tell you to f off? no of course not. She'lld be taken aback... maybe hit you for being so rude... hang on that's an IOI. You broke rapport and now she is kinoing you.. trying to rebuild that comfort through touch.)
I've been using this formula myself recently and I can't tell you how much it's helped me. Not to follow rigidly Just to understand where I am it helps you realise why things work, so that you can do whatever you want. Be AFC, be Direct, Peacock.
Do what you want but understand without comfort between you, you won't be able to break rapport, and without breaking rapport you'll be LJBF'd forever.
Then as soon as they are qualifying themselves to you, or seriously building rapport (Giving you IOI's) Step it up to sexual escalation. Don't lie, don't hide your intentions, don't have expectations. Just enjoy the ride. Literally!
Feel free to comment and ask questions! LR from last night to follow.
AFC AdamLondon